# Dozens injured in Waukesha, WI at Christmas parade: Nov 2021 \[update: 6 dead, over 40 injured\]\[update: trial\]

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> I am a bit ambivalent about that. I know the purpose is to avoid a current inequity by which a kingpin who can post a million sleeps at home and someone who can’t scrounge together ten thou for street dealing sleeps in jail. And bail is strictly speaking **not** to keep you locked up for public protection, it’s a measure to ensure you **do** show up to court — so the court in this case might have rightly concluded “he isn’t going anywhere”. But still no-cash-bail or mandatory negligible “first-offense” amounts (set as if in a vacuum) seem to exclude a middle.

We could have a discussion about how the noble motivations of bail reform fail when it hits reality but that’s a different thread.

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I hate hearing the word “gentleman” (or “lady” for that matter) used to describe a violent criminal.

I’ve had to call criminals sir and ma’am for the last 20 something years. You get used to it.

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