# Dr. Dre's son died of a heroin overdose? WTF?? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 2, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638 "2009-01-02T21:59:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/21 "2009-01-03T01:49:45Z")
One of those words has an e on the end of it. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/22 "2009-01-03T01:55:46Z")
An open letter to America’s wealthiest families: I feel your pain. I can’t say I understand what a terible burden enormous wealth must be, but I am willing to learn. Please, brothers and sisters, allow me to share the burden, and ease your load. Send me your stocks, your bonds, your bundled cashes. I have spent too much of my life in simple, joyous poverty. It’s time for me to give back! ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/23 "2009-01-03T01:58:40Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Wealth gives you as many chances to screw up as it does to succeed. I reckon the chances of screwing up when you’re rich are about equal to those when you’re not, but the outcome of those fuck ups is suddenly multiplied up by so much. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/24 "2009-01-03T02:27:44Z")
I’ll wager that being surrounded by his daddy’s entourage his whole life probably contributed heavily to his lifestyle. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/25 "2009-01-03T03:53:25Z")
> [@Pushkin](#): > > I reckon the chances of screwing up when you’re rich are about equal to those when you’re not, but the outcome of those fuck ups is suddenly multiplied up by so much. Nah, he didn’t kill himself any faster or more thoroughly than some methhead in Arkansas, just more publicly. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/26 "2009-01-03T04:33:05Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > By all accounts I’ve heard, doing heroin feels really, REALLY good. I’m not sure anything feels better. Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! It really doesn’t have to be any more complicated than that. I’m not sure why the OP is surprised that a (presumably) spoiled rich kid prefers to lounge around doing drugs that make him feel good about not doing anything productive, rather than do more substantial things, nearly all of which require actual work. Of course, this doesn’t even touch on depression and other factors similarly unrelated to the size of one’s bank account which also influence the decision to use hard drugs. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/27 "2009-01-03T05:08:17Z")
> [@Pushkin](#): > > I reckon the chances of screwing up when you’re rich are about equal to those when you’re not, but the outcome of those fuck ups is suddenly multiplied up by so much. I’d say the outcome is usually minimized because of the wealth. But dead is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/28 "2009-01-03T06:15:23Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! Or, in the words of Mark Renton (Trainspotting): > [@](#): > > People think it’s all about misery and desperation and death and all that shit which is not to be ignored, but what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn’t do it. After all, we’re not fucking stupid. At least, we’re not that fucking stupid. Except that, sometimes, they are. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/29 "2009-01-03T08:23:48Z")
> [@Dead\_Badger](#): > > This crack’s a bit moreish, isn’t it? He was just having a nice relaxing smoke of crack… ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/30 "2009-01-03T11:25:51Z")
Is the Detox album ready yet? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/31 "2009-01-03T16:07:23Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > You know this guy was probably surrounded by a huge entourage of his dad’s and no adults thought to step in and straighten this kid out? > > I just don’t get how these people (silver spoon kids) can end up in these situations without someone stepping in and righting them when they are young. The problem, more than likely, is that the adults surrounding the kid were probably engaged in the same self-destructive behavior. Hell, for all we know, they supplied him. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/32 "2009-01-03T16:29:11Z")
One does not take hardcore intoxicants to fuck up one’s life, it’s that people with fucked up lives take hardcore intoxicants. Despite loads of myth regarding some drugs nothing is instantly addictive. People persist in using drugs in scary, deadly and shocking amounts because they’re self medicating because they’re in pain. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/33 "2009-01-03T17:15:31Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > WTF is with these people who have the world in the palm of their hands, able to do anything they want to with money being no object, and they STILL have to head for the fucking drugs and gangsta life style. Gangsta lifestyle? ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/34 "2009-01-03T18:31:35Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > I’ll wager that being surrounded by his daddy’s entourage his whole life probably contributed heavily to his lifestyle. Yes. Let’s step back and remember that his dear old dad achieved fame and the wealth that supported them all by in the first instance an album named for, and in large part concerned with, the delights of a fairly potent illegal drug. Leaving aside whether weed is a gateway drug to harder drugs (a separate debate, and one on which I perhaps surprisingly tend to think not really), it is fair to say that this kid did not grow up with a consistent exemplar or proponent of a lifestyle in which ingestion of illegal and/or harmful substances was strongly discouraged. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/35 "2009-01-04T01:47:19Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > Yes. Let’s step back and remember that his dear old dad achieved fame and the wealth that supported them all by in the first instance an album named for, and in large part concerned with, the delights of a fairly potent illegal drug. Leaving aside whether weed is a gateway drug to harder drugs (a separate debate, and one on which I perhaps surprisingly tend to think not really), it is fair to say that this kid did not grow up with a consistent exemplar or proponent of a lifestyle in which ingestion of illegal and/or harmful substances was strongly discouraged. But if we agree that weed isn’t really a gateway drug to heroine, then it really doesn’t matter if Dad discouraged weed, right? I personally believe that adults undermine themselves with their kids when they pretend that weed is a big scary drug one tip toe away from crack. When the kids find out the truth, they lose trust in the parent’s guidance. If the parent is honest about weed use being miles away from the horror and nightmare that is heroine addiction, maybe the kid will actually believe the parent and stay the hell away from the junk. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/36 "2009-01-04T02:41:58Z")
Nothing my parents could have said would have stopped me from using drugs. If I was as rich and had as much power and freedom as Andre’s kid must have had, I’d have been in hog heaven. Drugs feel good. Drugs are fun. The lifestyle is fun. Until they aren’t, but it can be a long, long road to “aren’t fun anymore.” Trust me. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/37 "2009-01-04T06:14:37Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > Yes. Let’s step back and remember that his dear old dad achieved fame and the wealth that supported them all by in the first instance an album named for, and in large part concerned with, the delights of a fairly potent illegal drug. Leaving aside whether weed is a gateway drug to harder drugs (a separate debate, and one on which I perhaps surprisingly tend to think not really), it is fair to say that this kid did not grow up with a consistent exemplar or proponent of a lifestyle in which ingestion of illegal and/or harmful substances was strongly discouraged. I do not know anything about the extracurricular habits of the non-MD Dr. Dre. But it is not fair to induce this from Dr. Dre’s work. It’s fiction. It does not really give us grounds to presume one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/38 "2009-01-04T10:44:44Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > But if we agree that weed isn’t really a gateway drug to heroine, then it really doesn’t matter if Dad discouraged weed, right? > > I personally believe that adults undermine themselves with their kids when they pretend that weed is a big scary drug one tip toe away from crack. When the kids find out the truth, they lose trust in the parent’s guidance. > > If the parent is honest about weed use being miles away from the horror and nightmare that is heroine addiction, maybe the kid will actually believe the parent and stay the hell away from the junk. Nitpick, because it bothers me slightly: Heroin - a potent drug synthesized from morphine Heroine - a female hero ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/39 "2009-01-04T15:18:08Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > Yes. Let’s step back and remember that his dear old dad achieved fame and the wealth that supported them all by in the first instance an album named for, and in large part concerned with, the delights of a fairly potent illegal drug. Leaving aside whether weed is a gateway drug to harder drugs (a separate debate, and one on which I perhaps surprisingly tend to think not really), it is fair to say that this kid did not grow up with a consistent exemplar or proponent of a lifestyle in which ingestion of illegal and/or harmful substances was strongly discouraged. > [@Maeglin](#): > > I do not know anything about the extracurricular habits of the non-MD Dr. Dre. But it is not fair to induce this from Dr. Dre’s work. It’s fiction. It does not really give us grounds to presume one way or another. Maeglin is right. In fact, Dr. Dre has stated that he did not smoke weed before or during the recording of The Chronic (I think he may have started around that time or shortly afterwards - - or maybe not, I don’t have the guy’s life story memorized.) Anyway, Snoop Dogg named the album. If you listen to Express Yourself from NWA’s album a few years earlier, Dr. Dre has a verse bashing marijuana use. And it’s pointless you argue about whether or not weed is a gateway drug anyway, because like Cluricaun says, the addiction is in the person, not the drug. So it’s going to be a gateway drug for those determined to get addicted, and it’s not for those not. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638/40 "2009-01-04T15:26:09Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Nitpick, because it bothers me slightly: > > Heroin - a potent drug synthesized from morphine > Heroine - a female hero Thanks. My mistake. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-dres-son-died-of-a-heroin-overdose-wtf/479638.md?page=3)