# Dr. Fauci's Senate testimony **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 12, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647 "2020-05-12T16:18:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/21 "2020-05-13T03:41:22Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I am hearing that Fauci has connections with the lab in China that may or may not have been the source of the virus. I would like to hear him answer this. David Berkowitz was hearing things too. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/22 "2020-05-13T11:49:21Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I am hearing that Fauci has connections with the lab in China that may or may not have been the source of the virus. I would like to hear him answer this. Another call for a cite for this bizarre claim. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/23 "2020-05-13T11:55:53Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I am hearing that Fauci has connections with the lab in China that may or may not have been the source of the virus. I would like to hear him answer this. > [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Uhhhhh huh. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Got a link we can crush? > [@needscoffee](#): > > Where exactly are you hearing this? > [@DSeid](#): > > Very good Trump satire!!! Just missed the “people are saying … the best people …” and it would be perfect! > [@Czarcasm](#): > > I can’t wait to hear tomorrow’s vague unsubstantiated rumor designed to cast doubt. What is your source? > [@madmonk28](#): > > Another call for a cite for this bizarre claim. I’d like to see your cite as well. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/24 "2020-05-13T12:35:37Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I’d like to see your cite as well. As the poster in question said in an anti-vax movie thread (paraphrasing) - Since you’re now talking about it, I win. At least I assume that’s his attitude here. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/25 "2020-05-13T13:32:14Z")
If I have time later I will look. Yes, the sources I listen to are not always credible but, sometimes they are. It is difficult for me to find mainstream sources that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. The comment was more if anyone else has heard of this. ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/26 "2020-05-13T13:35:33Z")
From the hearing: “The mortality per capita in Sweden is actually less than France, less than Italy, less than Spain, less than Belgium, less than the Netherlands, about the same as Switzerland.” - Rand Paul Senator Rand Paul throws in a minor lie to help bolster his case. Sweden’s per capita death rate, at the time of the hearing, is about the same as the Netherlands and way less than Switzerland. Today’s numbers push Sweden ahead of the Netherlands. They are now ranked 9th in the world for per capita deaths and ranked 6th among countries with more than 1 million people. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/27 "2020-05-13T13:37:50Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > If I have time later I will look. > > Yes, the sources I listen to are not always credible but, sometimes they are. It is difficult for me to find mainstream sources that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. > > The comment was more if anyone else has heard of this. The hell it was: > [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I am hearing that Fauci has connections with the lab in China that may or may not have been the source of the virus. I would like to hear him answer this. The _only_ request in your post was for the doctor to respond to your unsubstantiated rumor. If you have time to repeat your unsubstantiated rumor then you have time to provide your source, so let’s have it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/28 "2020-05-13T13:40:45Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > If I have time later I will look. > > Yes, the sources I listen to are not always credible but, sometimes they are. It is **difficult for me to find mainstream sources** that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. > > The comment was more if anyone else has heard of this. Look for reputable ones. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/29 "2020-05-13T13:41:17Z")
He’s just trying to bait posters into catching warnings. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/30 "2020-05-13T13:41:37Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > If I have time later I will look. > > Yes, the sources I listen to are not always credible but, sometimes they are. It is difficult for me to find mainstream sources that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. > > The comment was more if anyone else has heard of this. I found it on Gateway Pundit and a bunch of anti-vas sites. I’m pretty sure that Dr Fauci has better things to do than waste his time with this bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/31 "2020-05-13T13:59:53Z")
A source can’t be credible “sometimes”. A source is either credible or not. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/32 "2020-05-13T14:07:40Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It is difficult for me to find mainstream sources that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. “Fake news” is _your_ side’s pet phrase, which y’all have twisted to mean “news that we don’t want to hear” instead of “news that just isn’t true”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/33 "2020-05-13T14:10:11Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > I found it on Gateway Pundit and a bunch of anti-vas sites. They’re all the same: no deferens at all between any of those sites! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/34 "2020-05-13T14:11:44Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > A source can’t be credible “sometimes”. A source is either credible or not. It can be credible about some things and not others. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/35 "2020-05-13T14:13:35Z")
Congress wants testimony from a senior executive branch member and subject matter expert related to a major crisis facing the country. It is a crisis that Congress will likely need to continue to intervene in legislatively. I suppose they could just defer all responsibility to the executive branch without any oversight. I generally prefer they at least go through the motions of doing the jobs they were elected to do. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/36 "2020-05-13T14:51:12Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > They’re all the same: no deferens at all between any of those sites! Urine trouble now. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/37 "2020-05-13T15:14:57Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Dr. Fauci is, in reality, the insidious Doctor Fu Manchu with a plastic surgery job, and this is part of his Grand Plan to take down Western Civilization. Wake up, sheeple! I thought he was the Emperor Ming the Merciless. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/38 "2020-05-13T15:21:41Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > If I have time later I will look. > > Yes, the sources I listen to are not always credible but, sometimes they are. It is difficult for me to find mainstream sources that people will not just dismiss offhand as “fake news”. > > The comment was more if anyone else has heard of this. UrbenRedneck, I’m not sure I buy this line of reasoning. A different moderator, perhaps a more suspicious and cynical moderator, might think you were attempting to derail the discussion away from information that is potentially damaging to your preferred political persuasion. From here on out, if rumormongering, please bring cites for debate and - potentially - embarrassing destruction. I hope that’s clear. Instruction for everyone going forward: Discussion of Fauci’s supposed ‘connections’ with any Chinese lab conspiracy theories need to come with rock solid citations including why his connection is somehow sinister. Otherwise, leave it be in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/39 "2020-05-13T15:22:43Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I thought he was the Emperor Ming the Merciless. Are there any photos of them together? Think about it! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647/40 "2020-05-13T15:47:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are there any photos of them together? Think about it! Ah ha! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-faucis-senate-testimony/853647.md?page=3)