# \[Dr. Horrible\] Something new from Joss Whedon, Nathan Fillion & Neil Patrick Harris

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 28, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584 "2008-06-28T18:05:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/121 "2008-07-19T04:27:36Z")

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Oh, wow. The perfect way to end it. I’m also stunned, but really, was there any other way to maintain our empathy for Dr. Horrible and our disgust with Capt. Hammer and still have them retain their roles?

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/122 "2008-07-19T04:39:34Z")

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That was fun. Thanks for pointing this out!

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/123 "2008-07-19T04:49:10Z")

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Holy cow, that was deep.

I noticed Ben Edlund thanked in the credits. I’m not sure what his role was, but I can see Captain Hammer as being very much like Edlund’s famous parody hero, The Tick- they’re both extremely dumb and are funny for it.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/124 "2008-07-19T04:54:25Z")

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I’m gonna have to hurt that boy, just on GP.

Nice to see David and Drew, and a surprisingly hot Marti.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/125 "2008-07-19T04:57:42Z")

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It doesn’t look like Dr. Horrible needs a sidekick, but [someone’s applying.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_6Dlvk0Xs)

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/126 "2008-07-19T05:37:25Z")

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I’m cursing the sudden but inevitable betrayal. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/127 "2008-07-19T05:54:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Queen Tonya]  
I’m cursing the sudden but inevitable betrayal. :mad:  
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Why Joss?! _shakes fist_

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/128 "2008-07-19T06:10:30Z")

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Man…

Act 3 had the weakest score IMO, but I couldn’t have asked for a better conclusion to the plot.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/129 "2008-07-19T06:14:11Z")

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So, I ordered the “Season Pass” from iTunes, but so far it’s only downloaded the first two episodes (I purchased it yesterday), it says it should include episode 3 as well, but I’ve not seen any means of downloading it. Will iTunes eventually clue in and due this automagically, or is there something I need to do to make it work?

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/130 "2008-07-19T06:55:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Raguleader]  
So, I ordered the “Season Pass” from iTunes, but so far it’s only downloaded the first two episodes (I purchased it yesterday), it says it should include episode 3 as well, but I’ve not seen any means of downloading it. Will iTunes eventually clue in and due this automagically, or is there something I need to do to make it work?  
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Store-\>Check For Purchases

Or just close and restart iTunes. It might just be a delay of some sort.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/131 "2008-07-19T09:41:19Z")

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Joss, you magnificent bastard.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/132 "2008-07-19T11:46:35Z")

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But, but, but… ☹  
Wow that was good…

When’s part IV??? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/133 "2008-07-19T12:00:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Queen Tonya]  
I’m cursing the sudden but inevitable betrayal. :mad:  
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Yeah, I should have remembered about someone’s Cold Black Heart of Cruelty

and Impaling.

The Chorus of Psychotic Fangirls (and boy) was PRICELESS.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/134 "2008-07-19T12:09:06Z")

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Well… that went in a darker direction than I thought it would.

I agree, the score for Act III wasn’t as compelling as Acts I and II.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/135 "2008-07-19T12:17:12Z")

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Yikes.

Good origin tale though - WANT MORE! (“Here’s his hair!”)

Favorite lines all go to Capt. Hammer again:

[spoiler]I hate the homeless . . . ness problem

There are the deltoids of compassion, the abs of being kind

Mommy, Mommy, Someone maternal!!![/spoiler]

I’ll have to watch the credits again for the villain names. I think we got a glimpse of Bait & Switch at the party, and I liked how Bad Horse’s minions stood in the doorway.

But my new favorite supervillain is Fake Thomas Jefferson. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@Tal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tal)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/136 "2008-07-19T12:18:58Z")

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You need to watch it a few times - it definately improves on you, but I found that was the case with all three parts - I hope this continues to get the attention it deserves

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/137 "2008-07-19T12:31:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Tal]  
You need to watch it a few times - it definately improves on you, but I found that was the case with all three parts - I hope this continues to get the attention it deserves  
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Agreed. First I was shocked (stared at my screen unable to watch again with my jaw hanging) and had a sense it was definitely good, but it wasn’t sticking. Watching it over, and all three in order it stood out more. I was able to catch and retain great themes and foreshadowing and symbolic acts and just fun stuff. Any other ending would be kind of cheap really, which I thought I was okay with because it was cheesy fun. But he went beyond that, and it was more and better even if it was awful.

I need to never go unspoiled again, as being prepared on the rewatchings helped me. Yeah, it was nice to be thrilled by unexpected greatness, but it just isn’t worth the shocking heartbreak.

I disagree with people on the score being week here though. The first song was catchy, the 2nd cheesy fun. Come the third (“Slipping”? sounds like it would be the right title) we were in brilliance. That is maybe the hottest and best executed villain song I’ve seen in a while. Definitely Sondheim influenced territory this act. Fans of musical theatre would be squeeing here, I say this as one of them.

I need more. Please Joss? I’d contribute to funding a sequel.

Oh, Dead Bowie was the name that stood out to me. Awesome villain, I need to see more of the ELE too.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/138 "2008-07-19T14:34:59Z")

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Help!

I can’t watch this without my connection freezing (it’s fairly slow). More than happy to pay for a download via iTunes, but it comes up as unavailable at the UK store. Is there a way round this? I like what I’ve seen so far.

On another note I only just got round to seeing the Buffy musical (Once More With Feeling). I was apprehensive as I hate musicals with a passion.

I bloody loved it.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/139 "2008-07-19T15:38:59Z")

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So, a thought that I had, does anyone else get the impression that Captain Hammer and Dr Horrible go waaay back? Seeing how Hammer seems to almost go out of his way to trouble Dr. Horrible? The comic also lends me toward this theory.

Now I wonder if Dr Horrible didn’t end up becoming a villain specifically because of Captain Hammer’s bullying. It would fit in with some of Joss’s past storytelling.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-horrible-something-new-from-joss-whedon-nathan-fillion-neil-patrick-harris/454584/140 "2008-07-19T16:26:45Z")

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I am not a _huge_ Whedon fan (I liked Buffy a lot but never watched the last season, and I have yet to watch Firefly or Serenity) but I liked Dr Horrible okay. I have to admit, I almost turned it off in the middle of Act I, but I waited it out and in the end was interested enough to watch Act II and Act III. It was funny and quirky and entertaining.

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