# Dr. James Dobson, I PIT thee!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 3, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081 "2005-02-03T00:27:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/21 "2005-02-04T17:00:42Z")

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Ah, that shining example of moral profundity, Randall Terry - homosexuality is wrong, but cheating on one’s spouse (as Terry reportedly did) is hunky-dory.

Wish I’d known a few decades back that one is allowed to choose moral absolutes at whim - I wouldn’t have wasted all those years in Sunday School. . . .

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**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/22 "2005-02-04T17:09:21Z")

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You only have to know one thing to know that Dr. Dobson is completely fucking insane: He truly believes that the Christian faith is the basis for a healthy family.

There are about 660 million families in China and India who would like to say otherwise. Give or take a few tens of millions.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/23 "2005-02-04T20:29:42Z")

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> [@Tentacle Monster](#):
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> You only have to know one thing to know that Dr. Dobson is completely fucking insane: He truly believes that the Christian faith is the basis for a healthy family.
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> There are about 660 million families in China and India who would like to say otherwise. Give or take a few tens of millions.

Probably 1 or 2 people in secular households in Europe that might have a few bones to pick. Not to mention Muslims. Or should we not get Mr. Dobson started on them? 🙂

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**Author:** ![wolfstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wolfstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfstu)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/24 "2005-02-04T20:51:01Z")

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> [@Tentacle Monster](#):
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> You only have to know one thing to know that Dr. Dobson is completely fucking insane: He truly believes that the Christian faith is the basis for a healthy family.
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> There are about 660 million families in China and India who would like to say otherwise. Give or take a few tens of millions.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to suggest otherwise, but a Christian faith _can_ form a basis for a healthy family. It’s clearly not the only way to have a healthy family, of course. Or a guarantee of a healthy family.

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/25 "2005-02-04T20:59:36Z")

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> [@wolfstu](#):
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> I’m sure you didn’t mean to suggest otherwise, but a Christian faith _can_ form a basis for a healthy family. It’s clearly not the only way to have a healthy family, of course. Or a guarantee of a healthy family.

Of course it CAN, but according to Dobson and his evil ilk, it is the ONLY way to have a healthy family. And his definition of healthy includes (presumably) women submitting to their husbands, and parents hitting their kids with rods or belts or something for punishment. (A rare swat on the rear with a hand is one thing, but when objects are involved that crosses the line IMO.)

He is a grade-A asshole.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/26 "2005-02-04T22:27:56Z")

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> [@BJMoose](#):
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> Ah, that shining example of moral profundity, Randall Terry - homosexuality is wrong, but cheating on one’s spouse (as Terry reportedly did) is hunky-dory.

Also, praising (or at least condoning) people who murder doctors who perform abortions along with the nurses and receptionists who work at the clinic is apparently okay.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/27 "2005-02-04T23:23:41Z")

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> [@infamousmom](#):
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> Thbft. Didn’t stop Phyllis Schlafly no way no how.

Schlafly’s child turned out to be gay? Damn, sucks to be him/her.

What does Dobson say about Jewish families? Can they be healthy?

Does he consider Catholics to be Christians?

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/28 "2005-02-05T00:00:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Does he consider Catholics to be Christians?

I’d break humanity down first into who he considers to be human beings, as opposed to animals. You know, like gays and Democrats.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/29 "2005-02-05T05:21:03Z")

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> [@whiterabbit](#):
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> Of course it CAN, but according to Dobson and his evil ilk, it is the ONLY way to have a healthy family. And his definition of healthy includes (presumably) women submitting to their husbands, and parents hitting their kids with rods or belts or something for punishment. (A rare swat on the rear with a hand is one thing, but when objects are involved that crosses the line IMO.)
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> He is a grade-A asshole.

He actually recommend objects rather than hands.

Grade A-Plus A.H.

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**Author:** ![infamousmom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@infamousmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infamousmom)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/30 "2005-02-05T08:43:56Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Schlafly’s child turned out to be gay? Damn, sucks to be him/her.

No kidding. I think Schlafly has five or six children and one of her sons is gay. Or let’s say one of her sons has come out as gay. I dunno about the others.

Since Phyllis has come down on the side of “I don’t want no homos teaching my kids” and I believe all her children were marched off to parochial school at the age of 6 (she doesn’t believe in kindergarten, either) it does make one wonder whether there were any indictments for child molestation in that particular parish… :eek:

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/31 "2005-02-05T15:50:50Z")

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> [@infamousmom](#):
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> No kidding. I think Schlafly has five or six children and one of her sons is gay. Or let’s say one of her sons has come out as gay. I dunno about the others.
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> Since Phyllis has come down on the side of “I don’t want no homos teaching my kids” and I believe all her children were marched off to parochial school at the age of 6 (she doesn’t believe in kindergarten, either) it does make one wonder whether there were any indictments for child molestation in that particular parish… :eek:

Where are you going with this, **infamousmom**? I don’t see the connection.

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-james-dobson-i-pit-thee/288081/32 "2005-02-05T16:47:54Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> He actually recommend objects rather than hands.
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> Grade A-Plus A.H.

True, I guess I wasn’t very clear. I read some of his stuff in a child psych class (comparative reading, I’m pretty sure the prof thought he was nuts, but he is rather influential in certain communities) and it honestly scared me. This is a man who thinks terrorizing a little dog is a funny story, and that the best way to get your kids to obey you (which is the most important thing a kid can do, because God says so) is to use fear and pain.

His reasoning concerning using – say, a rod – is that the child will supposedly associate the pain with the rod, not with your hand. I’m thinking kids aren’t that dumb. If Dad is using a rod, Dad is hitting them, not the rod.

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