# Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2000, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926 "2000-01-14T22:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/1 "2000-01-14T22:56:00Z")
As we approach another Martin Luther King (MLK) federal holiday it should be pointed out that King was a theological liberal–he rejected such doctrines as original sin, the virgin birth, and the physical resurrection of Christ. The abundant evidence documenting MLK’s communist ties, revolutionary goals, plagiarisms, adulterous womanizing, and theological liberalism are ignored when honoring him in this way. Once again last year we’ve had our annual brainwashing about Martin Luther King by the liberals who are obviously never interested in the truth. Otherwise they would be trying to open the 14 file cabinets full of eavesdropping data obtained by the FBI in the microphone surveillance of King, which have been sealed until the year 2027 to hide reports of his degenerate sexual escapades, embezzling, and relationship with Soviet agents. Whole volumes are labeled obscene. Some 64,000 pages of heavily deleted documents, not covered by court order, were released under the Freedom of Information Act to Sen. Jesse Helms and The Conservative Caucus in 1983. Even this was ignored by liberals determined that King be named a secular saint. Yet they freely exposed the sins of Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. Among many of these things reported include what the files called a two-day, drunken sex orgy at the Willard Hotel involving King, Southern Leadership Conference colleagues, and two women from the Philadelphia Naval Yard. A Las Vegas prostitute complained in another report about violence to which she had been personally subjected by King. Another report refers to a time when an intoxicated King threatened to leap from the 13th floor if the woman would not say she loved him. It was King’s selecting two top Communist Party officials–Stanley Levinson and Hunter Pitts O’Dell–as his closest advisers, and his other communist connections that could not be ignored, which prompted Attorney General Robert Kennedy to order FBI wiretapping of King’s home, his SCLC headquarters, and hotels that he frequented in 10 cities … The files quote King as telling Levinson: “I am a Marxist.” Perhaps if Bakker and Swaggart became Marxists, they too could become heroes in our public school system. The 1/20/92 MLK Day parade in Atlanta was led by Winnie Mandela (a Communist indicted for murder), Patricia Ireland (the lesbian leader of NOW), Sen. Ted Kennedy (notorious drunkard and womanizer), and Rep. Barney Frank (sodomite politician). Why is this man honored at all, no less than a public holiday in his name? Besides Christ, he’s the only man with his name in a public holiday. ---
**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/2 "2000-01-14T23:00:00Z")
Muttering to self, " I will not feed the trolls, I will not feed the trolls, I will not feed the trolls." * * * You want brilliance BEFORE I’ve had my coffee!!! ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/3 "2000-01-14T23:02:00Z")
This asshole is gonna get banned in record time. He ain’t even gonna last as long as KlanMan. * * * What do I believe in? Not much that can’t be proven by logic and scientific experiment, and you better believe, I want to see the logic and laboratory equipment. --P.J. O’Rourke– ---
**Author:** ![Pariah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Pariah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pariah)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/4 "2000-01-14T23:04:00Z")
What’s a _“Rascist?”_ ---
**Author:** ![Minxsmom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Minxsmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minxsmom)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/5 "2000-01-14T23:10:00Z")
Well duh, Pariah, it’s someone who hates rascs. ---
**Author:** ![yamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yamo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/6 "2000-01-14T23:10:00Z")
MLK jr changed the USA for the B-e-t-t-e-r. I would personally rather dump veteran’s day. What a waste! Returning combat veterans should do 5 years in prison before they can rejoin society as they, by their actions, have proven themselves unfit and really do need to be punished. Wrap your J E Hoover around that one! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/7 "2000-01-14T23:15:00Z")
Captain Ed? Is that you, you silly litle man? ---
**Author:** ![Pariah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Pariah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pariah)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/8 "2000-01-14T23:16:00Z")
Ohhhh… …even _Alfalfa?!?_ ---
**Author:** ![Pariah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Pariah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pariah)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/9 "2000-01-14T23:19:00Z")
Oh, wait! I see now! He’s just confused! ‘Rascist Scumbag’: **Martin Luther King, Jr. is NOT Buckwheat!** There. That should clear this up! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/10 "2000-01-14T23:28:00Z")
Obvious Troll stated: > [@](#): > > Besides Christ, he’s the only man with his name in a public holiday. Besides Christ? Oh, you mean Christ Columbus! Right! And as far as a semi-serious reply to the OP: It is thinking like yours which is leading for people to call for the names of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, Christopher Columbus, and J.E. Hoover to be expunged from any public building. Namely, that the personal sins and failings of a man always outweigh any good done by that man, that we should judge a person by said failings (even if those failings are more by being a product of their times) and not by any good brought by that person. More than anyone else, Dr. King was responsible for bringing the plight of African-Americans to the public eye, for lighting the torch of imagination which led public officials and volunteers to cry out and work against systemized bigotry and racism, and for acting as the nation’s consience upon an issue most Americans were perfectly happy to leave on a back burner, if not ignore completely. We can argue all we wish about whether there is racism in society today, as to whether African-Americans are systematically impoverished or whether they are by choice impoverished; but we cannot argue that in this country in the late '50’s and the early '60’s that there was no legislated racism. Dr. King helped focus American eyes and anger upon that systemic racism, and for that he is as much of a hero as a Founding Father who focused American eyes and anger upon systematic injustice under British rule. * * * JMCJ This could be YOUR sig line! For just five cents a post, JMCJ Enterprises will place YOUR sig line at the bottom of each message! ---
**Author:** ![Jett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@Jett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jett)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/11 "2000-01-15T00:28:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Why is this man honored at all, no less than a public holiday in his name? Besides Christ, he’s the only man with his name in a public holiday. From my trusty Elvis Calendar: February 12 - Abraham Lincoln’s Birthday February 22 - George Washington’s Birthday March 17 - St. Patrick’s Day (last name Succat) October 12 - Columbus Day (You’ve heard of him, right?) Try not to show how stupid you are, you may come off as representative of your entire race, that is, to people as closed-minded as you. There are plenty of places for your rascist (sic) rantings. Here all you’ll get is flak. I think this person should no longer be given the attention he seeks on this board. * * * Some mornings, it’s just not worth chewing through the leather straps. – Emo Phillips ---
**Author:** ![Pariah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Pariah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pariah)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/12 "2000-01-15T00:42:00Z")
You forgot the day of St. Jean, June 24. Canada. Does Canada count? LET’S HEAR IT FOR CANADA!!! (Raucous, thundering applause) ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/13 "2000-01-15T00:43:00Z")
How much longer before “Unregistered” appears under Scumbag’s name, anyway? * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy [The Kat House](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/home.htm) [Join the FSH Webring](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/fshwebring.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/14 "2000-01-15T01:00:00Z")
yamo said: “I would personally rather dump veteran’s day. What a waste! Returning combat veterans should do 5 years in prison before they can rejoin society as they, by their actions, have proven themselves unfit and really do need to be punished.” What the hell is your problem with Vets you petty insignificant little dung beatle’s shitball? You should kissing the very ground they walk on, otherwise, a slime ridden piece of flith like you wouldn’t have the freedoms you have today. Of course, you can have your little peace and love, let everyone live viewpoint cause someone else went out a shed blood for you. Oh, by the way, Rascist Scumbag, your a zit on the hide of society as well. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/15 "2000-01-15T01:19:00Z")
Seriously, what’s a troll? ---
**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/16 "2000-01-15T01:25:00Z")
It is a beastie who lives under a bridge, and quite often will demand payment for use of the bridge. That is, until the oldest billy goat Gruff came along and stomped the shit out of it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/17 "2000-01-15T01:32:00Z")
But, more specifically to this MB- A troller is a fisherman who drags a net through the water in the hopes of picking up something interesting. A troll on an MB is someone who posts a stupid and/or inflammatory statement in the hopes of getting a great deal of responses. Some trolls do this for the sake of attention (doesn’t matter whether they say good things or bad, just so long as they talk about me); some do this because they enjoy annoying people; and some do this to prove a point (that MBers will respond to anything, no matter how ludicrous; that a well-written point made by an obvious racist will always be ignored; etc.) * * * JMCJ This could be YOUR sig line! For just five cents a post, JMCJ Enterprises will place YOUR sig line at the bottom of each message! ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/18 "2000-01-15T01:32:00Z")
you know what I mean ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/19 "2000-01-15T01:33:00Z")
thanks, John ---
**Author:** ![LongHrn99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@LongHrn99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LongHrn99)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/20 "2000-01-15T03:08:00Z")
Pariah said: > [@](#): > > Does Canada count? Hell no!! They’re not even a real country anyway. 😉 > [@](#): > > MLK’s communist ties, revolutionary goals… Sen. McCarthy? Is that you? I thought you were dead! ::waving sheet of paper:: “I have on this page the name of 1 racist asshole who can’t spell!” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926.md?page=2)