# Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2000, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926 "2000-01-14T22:56:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/81 "2000-01-19T01:58:00Z")

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and before the peanut gallery comes and jumps on me for spelling and grammar. . .

_civilizations_  
He and _his_ band of ex-patriots. . .

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**SterlingNorth**  
Capitalism is not all-perfect. Neither is socialism. Now that that’s out of the way, let’s talk economics.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/82 "2000-01-19T06:32:00Z")

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> I have never used the word “Militarian”, so I suppose you’re looking pretty much like an ass now.

O thou who canst read, I didn’t say you used it. I expressly said you didn’t; however, I also said that you seemed to be walking the same path as yamo.

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**Author:** ![Sake\_Samurai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sake\_Samurai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sake_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2000, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/83 "2000-01-20T06:14:00Z")

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Oh, boy.

Sterling: I don’t think CC should have a holiday either.

I will admit I do not have proof of his attitude towards women, and was merely inferring based on his actions such as threatening woman with jumping out a window if they didn’t love him and the hiring prostitutes. I could be wrong.

The Memphis riot IS proof of what I earlier claimed - don’t try to change my statement now.

That’s fine if you think my problems with MLK Jr. are nitpicks. I don’t.

Peyote: I don’t agree with you at all. I have read the Rise & Fall and know all about the plans to dominate the US. It was a pipe dream. I feel comfortable saying that there was no possible way that would have happened.

I can not take seriously your claim that Japan & Germany would have actually taken over the UK & Russia had we not interferred.

I do agree with your last paragraph though.

Monty: Give it up! What you actually said was:

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> And speaking of dumb: what is your definition of “Militarian?” It doesn’t appear to be in the dictionary. The last one who appeared here making up words & definitions didn’t last too long when presented with the facts.

That was clearly addresed to me - and I have NEVER used that word.

Then you realized you fucked up and posted this disclaimer:

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> BTW, I do realize it was yamo who “coined” that phrase. It just seems to me you’re following that path. Maybe either of you could define it?

Clearly saying that you realize yamo first wrote the word but that I am using it too, and you’d like me to define it. Of course I’ve NEVER once used the damn word, nor have I even been speaking of the military in regards to MLK Jr.

## Fuck off.

Hell is Other People.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2000, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/84 "2000-01-20T06:53:00Z")

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> It just seems to me you’re following that path.

Okay, samurai: define this expression.

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**Author:** ![Sake\_Samurai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sake\_Samurai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sake_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/85 "2000-01-19T19:31:00Z")

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I am done “debating” with you over the fact that you can’t admitt you accused me falsely.

Perhaps the next time our paths cross, we can have a meaningful discussion.

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Hell is Other People.

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**Author:** ![yamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yamo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/86 "2000-01-19T19:49:00Z")

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militarian-1 adj. Of or pertaining to the armed forces. 2 n. One who advocates warlike policies.  
Are you sure WW2 did not start in 19th century? At least part of it did. Black ships.

If you want to die for me, ok. But, please don’t kill for me.

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/87 "2000-01-19T21:04:00Z")

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World War started in the 19th Century?

Yamo, I would not have thought it possible, but you just made an assertion at least 10 times more assinine than Sake Samurai’s assertion that Nazi Germany was no threat to the U.S.

Good God, go back to school and learn some history.

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The Coyote gnaws …  
but he does not swallow.

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**Author:** ![Sake\_Samurai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sake\_Samurai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sake_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/88 "2000-01-19T21:29:00Z")

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Peyote, until you produce some evidence proving that Hitler was very capable of invading the United States in the 40s, I suggest refrain from calling my statement “asinine”.

Projecting a theater of combat some 3,000+ miles is exceedingly difficult, even today. The resources and supply effort needed to sustain an army across an ocean are stunning. The Germans overextended themselves several times with disasterous results. Moving several divisions across the Atlantic and having them land on American soil and carry on a serious campaign was beyond the German’s capabilities. Please show me how it was feasible that they could have launched a successful threat against the American people with all of Europe and Russia at their throat.

I will conceed the one possible threat if things had occurred just a little bit differently: long-range missles (V-3) and the atomic bomb.

_We really should open a new thread, I don’t think “Rascist Scumbag” cares to discuss intellectual or historical matters unless involves blatant ignorance._

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Hell is Other People.

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/89 "2000-01-19T23:25:00Z")

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Saki, I have accepted your challenge and have started a thread in Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2000, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-martin-luther-king-jr/3926/90 "2000-01-20T05:52:00Z")

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> Originally posted by yamo:  
> militarian-1 adj. Of or pertaining to the armed forces. 2 n. One who advocates warlike policies.
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> If you want to die for me, ok. But, please don’t kill for me.

What dictionary or political handout is that from, yamo?

So you think wars for freedom even are won by just standing up and getting killed? Interesting thought.

Sake: I did accuse you of redefining a word at will: that of “samurai.” You may think it’s a beautiful and romantic thing along the lines of the feudal knights of Europe but in reality neither the samurai nor the knights were so innocent.

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