# Dr. Pepper: "We don't serve your kind here." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364 "2011-10-21T15:33:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/181 "2011-10-27T13:23:16Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Holy shit, like those peoples’ jobs don’t suck enough already. You’re aware that most drive thru workers aren’t on the fucking corporate toy policy committee, right? > > You said you were ashamed, so hopefully you get it - but the “many” part has me wondering. People who are assholes to fast food employees tend to piss me off. They work for peanuts, the least you can do is be civil. It must be nice to have never been wrong or behaved unreasonably. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/182 "2011-10-27T13:48:19Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > It must be nice to have never been wrong or behaved unreasonably. :rolleyes: Huh? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/183 "2011-10-27T13:52:25Z")
I believe\*\* BEG\*\* is referencing the very first clause of her post, where she said “I’m ashamed to admit…” She says she was wrong, right from the start, and still gets reamed for it. I’d give the reamer a few roll-eyes myself under those circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/184 "2011-10-27T13:52:46Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > It must be nice to have never been wrong or behaved unreasonably. :rolleyes: So I can never find anything bothersome now? I assume by making that post you’re indicating that you’ve never been hypocrticial about anything ever? :rolleyes::rolleyes: @ **silenus** I mentioned the “ashamed” part and said that maybe she “gets it” but questioned whether that because of the “many” part of her post. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/185 "2011-10-27T13:57:15Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I believe\*\* BEG\*\* is referencing the very first clause of her post, where she said “I’m ashamed to admit…” She says she was wrong, right from the start, and still gets reamed for it. I’d give the reamer a few roll-eyes myself under those circumstances. Ah, OK. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/186 "2011-10-27T14:31:58Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > @ **silenus** > > I mentioned the “ashamed” part and said that maybe she “gets it” but questioned whether that because of the “many” part of her post. Ah. So, at the end of the first quarter, the score is tied. We’ll be back to the action after these words from our sponsors. Rather than getting upset with Dr Pepper, the OP should be railing against Progresso soups. Their latest commercial (that isn’t on Youtube yet) has women “calling” the Progresso kitchen and telling the female chefs who answer that they (the customers) can now fit into their “skinny” jeans thanks to Progresso Light soups. The chefs respond with a “You go, girl!” When a caller gets a male chef, he doesn’t get what she is talking about. The customer eventually asks “Is there a woman there I can speak to?” Now **that** is a sexist ad! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/187 "2011-10-27T14:43:40Z")
This reminds me of something that happened in class the other day. The instructor was quoting some ancient bit of philosophy. I don’t remember what it was, but it was something like “Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.” One of the students, who is a bit of a case, piped up “That’s so sexist! Women have to eat too! Why is it always men men men!” ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/188 "2011-10-27T14:48:17Z")
People still watch commercials? I thought that was why we DVRed everything, so we could jump over those annoying blocks of time. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/189 "2011-10-27T15:12:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Rather than getting upset with Dr Pepper, the OP should be railing against Progresso soups. Their latest commercial (that isn’t on Youtube yet) has women “calling” the Progresso kitchen and telling the female chefs who answer that they (the customers) can now fit into their “skinny” jeans thanks to Progresso Light soups. The chefs respond with a “You go, girl!” When a caller gets a male chef, he doesn’t get what she is talking about. The customer eventually asks “Is there a woman there I can speak to?” > > Now **that** is a sexist ad! Soup has a well known liberal bias. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/190 "2011-10-27T15:47:36Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > This reminds me of something that happened in class the other day. The instructor was quoting some ancient bit of philosophy. I don’t remember what it was, but it was something like “Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.” > > One of the students, who is a bit of a case, piped up “That’s so sexist! Women have to eat too! Why is it always men men men!” “Give a woman a fire, and she’s warm for the day. Set a woman on fire, and she’s warm for the rest of her life!” ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/191 "2011-10-27T16:13:17Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > Best “diet” drink I’ve seen from the one of the major soda companies. I couldn’t care less about the marketing, already being a diet soda drinker (of most types, including diet DP), but I’m with **typoink** - this stuff is AWESOME as diet drinks go, and not significantly more caloric than normal diet soda. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the same type of thing out of Pepsi and Coke in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/192 "2011-10-27T16:47:42Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I shared this pit thread with my wife. I’m going to quote her response verbatim: > > "how about we focus on the things that actually matter? > > Why don’t people pit things like HB 453 which allows doctors to deny a life saving abortion to mothers which every house republican and 15 democrats supported? I think that’s much more important than ‘oh no! Dr pepper doesn’t like my vagina!’ get the fuck over it and get angry at real things." I’m at a loss for why you would post that. Your wife’s position is ridiculous on its face. “You can’t complain about X because Y is more important and you don’t complain about that.” Anyone who posted that here would be rightly lambasted for it. Even here where so many people have the irrational idea that small problems should just be ignored, someone would point out how stupid the logic is: You didn’t Pit the Holocaust, so you can’t Pit anything else that’s less important. Fuck that. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/193 "2011-10-27T16:55:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Even here where so many people have the irrational idea that small problems should just be ignored, someone would point out how stupid the logic is: I’m still at a loss to understand why that commercial is even a small problem. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/194 "2011-10-27T18:01:57Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > People still watch commercials? I thought that was why we DVRed everything, so we could jump over those annoying blocks of time. You’re missing the beauty of this campaign. People are watching this ad on purpose. Then debating it, which requires that they watch it again! They are tweaking their Facebook profiles because no man is going to tell them that they can’t watch that commercial! You know what women can’t do? Paint my porch steps. Back off, ladies, that’s for men only! ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/195 "2011-10-27T18:10:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You didn’t Pit the Holocaust, so you can’t Pit anything else that’s less important. Fuck that. BRB, pitting the Holocaust so I can then make a thread about the real subject of my ire: my mocha has too much milk in it this morning :mad:. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/196 "2011-10-27T18:18:50Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > BRB, pitting the Holocaust so I can then make a thread about the real subject of my ire: my mocha has too much milk in it this morning :mad:. Substitute “blacks” or “Jews” for milk and you can see how offensive that is! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/197 "2011-10-27T18:45:59Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > \ > You know what women can’t do? Paint my porch steps. Back off, ladies, that’s for men only! Is that code? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/198 "2011-10-27T18:57:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m at a loss for why you would post that. Your wife’s position is ridiculous on its face. “You can’t complain about X because Y is more important and you don’t complain about that.” Anyone who posted that here would be rightly lambasted for it. Even here where so many people have the irrational idea that small problems should just be ignored, someone would point out how stupid the logic is: > > You didn’t Pit the Holocaust, so you can’t Pit anything else that’s less important. Fuck that. I agree with you in principle, however… > [@tdn](#): > > I’m still at a loss to understand why that commercial is even a small problem. …yeah, this. Edit: I’m not sure if saiorse was speaking n code or not, but I’ll follow the lead. You know what else women can’t do? Find me a three-drawer dresser that is dark brown, to the point of almost being black, or white. No other colors. It must be three-drawers and fit in the space between my bed and the doorway. This mission is not for girls! ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/199 "2011-10-27T19:15:40Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > No you shouldn’t. And the clue that you just got your panties in a wad for no reason is your seeming need to equate this with a company telling blacks they shouldn’t use it. There are not enough :rolleyes:s. The fact is that many products enjoy success among the different genders at different rates. Dr. Pepper is simply taking notice of that and using that information to deliberately shape the brand. They’re betting that they will attract more males than they would have otherwise. They see that they’re is an opportunity in the market for this type of product for MEN. Obviously they deemed that the women’s side of the equation is not as attractive, as it’s so crowded, among other things. They also are accepting that the few whiney letters they get from knee-jerking women WHO THEY’VE DECIDED ARE NOT THEIR MARKET do not matter. (Thing Miller Lite.) Add to that the pussies like the OP. Newsflash: men and women are different. Acknowledging that is not always an insult. Especially when it’s so over the top, like in this case > > Now go light a candle, open a bottle of Chardonnay, fluff up your pillows, call some similarly minded dumb girlfriends over and have yourselves a good cry. Boo-fucking-hoo. Many products enjoy success among the different races at different rates, too. By your logic, if a company was trying to market a product toward whites, it would be totally acceptable for them to market it as “not for blacks” and any black people who found it offensive should just light themselves up a menthol, eat some fried chicken and watermelon, and STFU. You’ll forgive me for not agreeing with your line of thought. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364/200 "2011-10-27T19:22:28Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Many products enjoy success among the different races at different rates, too. By your logic, if a company was trying to market a product toward whites, it would be totally acceptable for them to market it as “not for blacks” and any black people who found it offensive should just light themselves up a menthol, eat some fried chicken and watermelon, and STFU. You’ll forgive me for not agreeing with your line of thought. You’re technically correct, as far as the comparison you draw. But in our society there is MUCH more leeway deemed acceptable when looking at gender stereotypes. It’s the basis for popular sitcoms and a good majority of products made for households—of course the stupid husband can’t wash the clothes or understand that the reason he can’t find in the refrigerator the Key Lime Pie and Red Velvet Cake his wife is talking about on the phone is because…wait for it…_they’re yogurt flavors!!!_. HAHAHA!!! So, from a practical sense the two or worlds apart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-pepper-we-dont-serve-your-kind-here/600364.md?page=11)