# "Drawn together" is a riot! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2004, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626 "2004-10-28T06:09:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/21 "2004-10-28T18:21:27Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > > [@pizzabrat](#): > > > > They didn’t even have real cartoons in the twenties, they just dragged cells with stationary drawings on them across the camera, and then interspliced title cards. > > Ahem… > > Windsor McCay made the first animated cartoon in 1911, featuring characters from the wonderful series _Little Nemo_. It was comprised of over 4000 separate drawings and it moved incredibly smoothly. By 1918, animated shorts accompanied every movie showing, and even provided the only report of the actual events of the sinking of the Lusitainia in a remarkable 13 minute animation. Ahem… Where did you quote me? From my obviously mistakenly sent post that stops midsentence? If you didn’t notice, my final post is right under that and I took that line out (mainly because I knew the hyperbole would be misunderstood). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/22 "2004-10-28T18:24:13Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Do you get the freaking joke, now? **Can I know what I’m talking about for once?** OK you get this one. Only this one. You do realize you just blew your one time on a _Drawn together_ thread. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/23 "2004-10-28T19:29:47Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Ahem… > Where did you quote me? From my obviously mistakenly sent post that stops midsentence? If you didn’t notice, my final post is right under that and I took that line out (mainly because I knew the hyperbole would be misunderstood). Sorry. Didn’t realize I’d need to be clairvoyant and read all the way through what appeared to be a double post and magically discern that you meant to stop that post a sentence after the one you were deciding to abandon without any reason. Yeah, that one was my fault. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/24 "2004-10-28T19:42:18Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Sorry. Didn’t realize I’d need to be clairvoyant and read all the way through what appeared to be a double post and magically discern that you meant to stop that post a sentence after the one you were deciding to abandon without any reason. Yeah, that one was my fault. :rolleyes: Huh? What’s clairvoyant about reading the completed post right after the short one that stops mid-sentence? I mean, if you want to come in with a haughty “Ahem…” and a snide correction, the least you can do is read the finished post of the person you’re responding to. And what do you mean “without any reason”? I gave you the reason. The fact that I knew that someone was going to take that obvious hyperbole at face value was the reason. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/25 "2004-10-28T20:16:08Z")
You gave me the reason in your post explaining your post, not the post itself. After seeing that the first few lines of the second post were identical to the first, I figured it was a double post. Why not come in with “I menat to say” and continue your post, instead of reposting most of the first post? I’m not trying to start a snot war, and I didn’t mean “ahem” to sound haughty - it was more of a throat-clearing introduction to today’s lesson on the history of animation, which I just recently saw for myself and am still excited about. Just thought I’d fight a bit of ignorance, for those who would leave this thread thinking that there wasn’t animation until the thirties. You never did address that piece of misinformation until it was refuted. Saying the second post took away the hyperbole doesn’t make it so. Just because the same sentence wasn’t there doesn’t mean you knew it was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/26 "2004-10-28T21:36:36Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > I’m not trying to start a snot war, and I didn’t mean “ahem” to sound haughty - it was more of a throat-clearing introduction to today’s lesson on the history of animation, which I just recently saw for myself and am still excited about. Just thought I’d fight a bit of ignorance, for those who would leave this thread thinking that there wasn’t animation until the thirties. You never did address that piece of misinformation until it was refuted. Saying the second post took away the hyperbole doesn’t make it so. Just because the same sentence wasn’t there doesn’t mean you knew it was wrong. Oh, ok. Sorry, then. Anyway, I saw those Little Nemo shorts, and it looked like they were just dragging stationary drawings across the camera. Actually, it looked like Flash animation. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/27 "2004-10-28T21:39:43Z")
I was looking forward to this show, but when it was over, the one word that pretty much summed up my feelings toward was “lame”. Just about every joke was used multiple times, even though they weren’t funny the first time. I doubt I’ll give it another chance. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/28 "2004-10-29T13:07:38Z")
Just viewed my tape of it. Waste of tape. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/29 "2004-10-29T13:52:11Z")
I watched about 10 minutes of it. Coarse and unfunny are two adjectives that spring to mind. I switched it off and put on a DVD of Betty Boop shorts. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/30 "2004-10-29T14:36:16Z")
> [@](#): > > “Drawn together” is a riot!" We can learn things from dictionaries. > [@](#): > > riot > > n 1: a public act of violence by an unruly mob [syn: public violence] ---
**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/31 "2004-10-29T14:58:47Z")
I also was looking forward to it as well, unfortunately I found it to be lame. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/32 "2004-10-29T15:10:17Z")
The tiny trivial thing that got under my skin was their referring to Toots (who, we’ve agreed, is a Betty Boop “tribute”) as a “20s sex symbol.” Betty made her first film ([Dizzy Dishes](http://imdb.com/title/tt0020829/)) in 1930 and was pretty much washed up by 1936. Though she was, of course, based on singing comedienne [Helen Kane](http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2696&pt=Helen%20Kane), who made films from 1929–31. There, I got _that_ out of my system. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/33 "2004-10-29T15:14:02Z")
I MISSED IT!!! AAARRRGH! RE Tootsie- She’s not fat, she’s zaftig! I’d definitely go for her in real life (if it wasn’t for the self-multilation! Yoikes!) ---
**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/34 "2004-10-29T15:59:57Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > We can learn things from dictionaries. Do you know what [slang](http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entries/51/r0255100.html) is? You should consider reading **all** the definitions. > [@](#): > > _Yahoo Reference_ > > 1. _Slang_ An irresistibly funny person or thing: _Isn’t she a riot?_ ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/35 "2004-10-29T16:06:58Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > The tiny trivial thing that got under my skin was their referring to Toots (who, we’ve agreed, is a Betty Boop “tribute”) as a “20s sex symbol.” Betty made her first film ([Dizzy Dishes](http://imdb.com/title/tt0020829/)) in 1930 and was pretty much washed up by 1936. > > Though she was, of course, based on singing comedienne [Helen Kane](http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2696&pt=Helen%20Kane), who made films from 1929–31. > > There, I got _that_ out of my system. Ooooh-kay. I think it’s obvious, now, that I’m on a few ignore lists… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/36 "2004-10-29T16:12:37Z")
> [@DaddyTimesTwo](#): > > Do you know what [slang](http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entries/51/r0255100.html) is? You should consider reading **all** the definitions. I must disagree, compeer. After viewing said inkstained debacle, I feel that definition #1 comes closer. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/37 "2004-10-29T16:17:55Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Ooooh-kay. I think it’s obvious, now, that I’m on a few ignore lists… I wasn’t annoyed at _you_, I was annoyed at the _Drawn Together_ people for referring to a 1930s cartoon as a 1920s cartoon. I saw your _Dizzy Dishes_ reference (good catch) and was just expanding on it. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/38 "2004-10-29T16:53:24Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > I wasn’t annoyed at _you_, I was annoyed at the _Drawn Together_ people for referring to a 1930s cartoon as a 1920s cartoon. I saw your _Dizzy Dishes_ reference (good catch) and was just expanding on it. Oh, ok. Anyway, you may call it tiny and trival, but for me its a dealbreaker. Toot was the main reason I was excited about this show, and if they can’t even get her decade right, then they obviously don’t know what they’re doing. She shouldn’t be driven into wild takes herself, she should be inducing them from animals and inanimate objects (though I guess that’s forgivable since she’s a dried up sex-symbol on the show). She should also be constantly grooving to an ever-present beat. Betty Boop (and all other 30’s cartoon characters) was the real slave to the rhythm, not any 70’s Hanna Barbara girls. And dancing to the _Charleston_!? I’ll still watch, because maybe things will get better; I hope she starts singing as much as Clara does (especially since they’re both voiced by the same person). ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/39 "2004-10-29T17:05:50Z")
I just re-watched the episode. Right before she saw Xander’s non-butt, Toot was grooving to a mysterious beat for a second. They should keep that up. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626/40 "2004-10-29T19:13:25Z")
O… M… G… I didn’t vomit in my mouth, I vomited in my brain, and that felt better than the searing images of the worse… “humor”… ever. Let’s introduce the characters at the top of the show… not with a parodied backstory of their life and times… not with them introducing themselves and saying something about themselves… but with a still frame and a narrator telling us…“here is their plot point gag so you know how they’ll be functioning in the so-called comedic scenes to come!” We won’t imply that Xandir is gay, we’ll tell you that at the beginning of the show just in case you might miss our ham-handed running gag about how gay he is! Then, instead of subtle hints, or winking signals, or situational outings, we’ll just hammer home the plot-point gag of each character relentlessly. Obviously, the first time that Foxxy is sluttily Black or Princess is naively biggoted or the pig is anal expulsive or Xandir is fay, then the 100th time will be just as funny! My God, the show was just unrelentingly banal, but with an in-your-face failed and flailingly lame attempt to be edgy. It was the equivalent of a fourth grade boy finding his father’s porn and tearing a beaver shot out and shoving it in everyone’s faces over and over again and laughing hysterically about how funny it was that he shoved it in your face. That is what ‘Drawn Together’ is. ## Peace. Yeah, the blue ball was the one funny thing. Funny how this one funny thing had nothing to do with a main character’s ‘gag.’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drawn-together-is-a-riot/271626.md?page=1)