# DrDeth is Pitted Again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044 "2025-10-17T03:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/141 "2025-11-18T02:07:28Z")

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Ugh. My bad. I shouldn’t have started what would obviously turn into a hijack. He just said that he disagreed with something and then went on to describe something completely unrelated. We are talking about what food pantries will generally accept, not what they arguably _should_ accept or what DrD would eat.

I’m very sorry. I just started donating regularly to my local food bank and I love them.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/142 "2025-11-18T03:00:39Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/143 "2025-11-18T12:10:31Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Bound to be right, even by accident, some of the time.
> 
> The issue is that he’s so far off most of the time that he could claim the sky is blue, and because of his record, I’d have to actually think about whether or not that’s true

Has anyone considered the possibility that perhaps @DrDeth is actually learning from his years at the straight dope?And maybe he actually read his cire this time

I could be totally wrong on this.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/144 "2025-11-18T13:50:59Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> He’s gone off again in the Food Banks thread. Fucking idiot has derailed a potentially useful and informative thread on a topic near to my heart.

Yeah, it’s a classic case of - there’s a useful point to be made, as in “the best-by date on a can doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t be donated, check with your food pantry first. The end.” But he had to turn it into “I have special knowledge, Big Can is lying to you, I eat expired food all the time and it’s fine, everyone else should do the same.”

Someone please award him a gold star for being clever and thrifty so we can all move on.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/145 "2025-11-18T14:22:26Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Has anyone considered the possibility that perhaps @DrDeth is actually learning from his years at the straight dope?And maybe he actually read his cire this time

Thanks for this! Always good to start the day with a laugh

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/146 "2025-11-18T14:53:37Z")

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> [@Dogchow1](#):
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> Wow. I’m new here. I have no idea what being “pitted” is. Nor do I know who DrDeth or Stranger\_on\_A\_Train are. What the thread is about, or if I’m even replying correctly to Stranger.
> 
> But you, Sir or Madam, have brilliantly crafted a museum quality insult worthy of multiple readings for the sheer joy of it. Well done and am humbled to have read it!
> 
> I need to go splash water on my face to recover.

Welcome to the Dope. You’ll find @Stranger_On_A_Train to be eminently readable, as well as knowledgeable on many disciplines. Kind of an inside-out Dunning-Kruger .

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/147 "2025-11-18T14:54:49Z")

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Just never complain about your wife in front of him.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/148 "2025-11-18T15:32:08Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Has anyone considered the possibility that perhaps @DrDeth is actually learning from his years at the straight dope?And maybe he actually read his cire this time

You’ll note from a few posts up that he accused John Oliver of failing to disclose that one of the felony murder charges he talked about had been overturned on appeal. Oliver did mention this, the trouble is that our hero never saw the show that he was bloviating about. So, no.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/149 "2025-11-18T15:47:45Z")

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For all the bitching and moaning he did in that thread, the least he could’ve done is watch the 20 minute youtube video.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Oliver did mention this, the trouble is that our hero never saw the show that he was bloviating about

IIRC, once that was explained to him, then he complained that it wasn’t mentioned until later in the video and the article he read (from the OP?) didn’t mention it.  
It’s like when someone goes on and on about how much they don’t like a movie when all they know about it is what they extrapolated from a few trailers.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/150 "2025-11-18T20:59:52Z")

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He can’t _possibly_ be as dense as he’s portraying in the “D&D got Woke” thread. This is just performative idiocy. Well, Deth is that idiot.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/151 "2025-11-21T18:47:18Z")

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Now he’s in the [“which is the worst ‘Twilight Zone’ episode” thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-in-praise-of-the-twilight-zone/1025021/50), strongly implying that only his opinion matters.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/152 "2025-11-23T04:33:28Z")

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Omg STFU about best by dates and expiry dates. He is being a complete asshole in the food banks thread again.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/153 "2025-11-23T04:35:09Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Omg STFU about best by dates and expiry dates.

He MUST get in the last word. No one may use the term “expiration date” and expect to get away with it while DD is on duty!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/154 "2025-11-23T20:32:21Z")

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He’s certainly past his own best by date. I wonder when his expiration date will finally roll around.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/155 "2025-11-23T20:43:45Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Perhaps he’s seen The Alamo one too many times…

I’ve seen it; it’s spectacularly boring.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/156 "2025-11-23T21:15:17Z")

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I mean, you guys were egging him on a lot in the food stamp thread. From the get go the tone to him was hostile, which of course pushes him to respond back to defend himself.

Yeah, he went too far with it, but you guys kept engaging. Why would he stop if you keep on arguing with him? Especially when you’d made him mad?

I mean, you even had citations that agreed with him, but then still treated him like he was wrong. The food pantry quotes said they accepted things after the best-by dates, up to a year.

Don’t get me wrong, a better person would have agreed to disagree and not kept on. He should have shut up about it before the mods came in. There’s a reason when I see a thread I disagree with, I say my peace and leave.

But I know I found myself more irritated by many of the replies to him than his posts themselves.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/157 "2025-11-23T21:17:57Z")

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For each of our more … challenging … posters there seems to be a corresponding cadre of regulars who simply cannot resist their challenging bait.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/158 "2025-11-23T21:23:22Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The food pantry quotes said they accepted things after the best-by dates, up to a year.

By definition that means those dates are relevant and Deth said as much.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/159 "2025-11-23T21:37:05Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I mean, you even had citations that agreed with him, but then still treated him like he was wrong. The food pantry quotes said they accepted things after the best-by dates, up to a year.

A correct read of the situation is: each food pantry has its own guidelines as to what they’ll take, and it’s best to ask them.

His position: canned food dates aren’t real and he eats expired food all the time and he’s fine, so nobody else should worry about it.

See the problem? He’s not engaging with the topic at issue, he’s trying to reduce a many-factored discussion to one narrow fact that he verified on Snopes or whatever. The hostility is justified and well-earned.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-pitted-again/1024044/160 "2025-11-23T21:58:12Z")

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That’s it. The thread was about the best way to support a food pantry. There was lots of very useful information from people like myself who regularly donate to pantries, people who have relied on food pantries in the past and people who have worked at pantries. Then he, who has done none of these things, hijacked the thread with tangential bullshit. It was ruining the thread.

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