# DrDeth read some fantasy books. He's very proud of it. It's probably his biggest accomplishment. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2015, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223 "2015-05-04T09:26:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/81 "2015-05-06T05:46:44Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Waitaminute. Elrond was her dad, right? I believe elves are monogamous, right? I can’t imagine Arwen having siblings She has two brothers ( Elladan & Elrohir) - They even show up in the books. > [@](#): > > , but I can very much imagine her having cousins. Arwen was related to Aragorn as a cousin. But this is correct. Basically, Arwen’s dad Elrond is the brother of Aragorn’s great_X grandpappy, making him Aragorn’s Great_X Uncle and Arwen his Xth cousin (or possibly his first cousin X removed, but I don’t think that’s right) Galadriel is Elrond’s Mom-In-Law and Arwen’s Granny. She’s aged well 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/82 "2015-05-06T13:50:24Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > She has two brothers ( Elladan & Elrohir) - They even show up in the books. > But this is correct. Basically, Arwen’s dad Elrond is the brother of Aragorn’s great_X grandpappy, making him Aragorn’s Great_X Uncle and Arwen his Xth cousin (or possibly his first cousin X removed, but I don’t think that’s right) First cousin X removed. The “removed” part counts generations above or below a given layer of a family tree. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/83 "2015-05-06T14:06:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Arwen was Aragon’s great-great-great—aunt. > > Oops. I just spoilered the entire _LOtR_ trilogy!!! I’ve ruined it for everyone… Dammit. That was a book spoiler (almost, it’s cousin x-times removed)–I don’t think the movies mentioned it. Now we need a new LOTR threads rule. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/84 "2015-05-06T14:43:40Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > She has two brothers ( Elladan & Elrohir) - They even show up in the books. > But this is correct. Basically, Arwen’s dad Elrond is the brother of Aragorn’s great_X grandpappy, making him Aragorn’s Great_X Uncle and Arwen his Xth cousin (or possibly his first cousin X removed, but I don’t think that’s right) > > Galadriel is Elrond’s Mom-In-Law and Arwen’s Granny. She’s aged well 🙂 But who is Prof. T? As I understand it, he or she is a superfreak! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/85 "2015-05-06T14:54:12Z")
Oh, most serious Tolkienologists agree that he was. Seriously, just look at the [weird shit](https://exploreleeds.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/tolkienrelaxed.jpg)he was into. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/86 "2015-05-06T15:18:29Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Oh, most serious Tolkienologists agree that he was. Seriously, just look at the [weird shit](https://exploreleeds.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/tolkienrelaxed.jpg)he was into. Did he just have sex with an Ent? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/87 "2015-05-06T15:39:50Z")
Ent_wife_ actually. They aren’t lost, they just ran away with JRRT after getting a taste of his “Foe-Hammer.” ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/88 "2015-05-08T05:44:45Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > First cousin X removed. The “removed” part counts generations above or below a given layer of a family tree. Thanks, I never get the distinction right it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/89 "2015-05-08T15:31:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Thanks, I never get the distinction right it seems. X cousin once removed means that person A is X cousin to person B’s parent - the connection is ONE generation removed. Person A is X cousin twice removed to B’s child. And so forth. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/90 "2015-05-08T22:42:37Z")
> [@Mithras](#): > > Well, shit. I had a free weekend coming up and was really looking forward to reading the SDMB _Game of Thrones_ threads starting at season one. I wanted to go in fresh, not knowing which poster is most likely to point out deviations from the books, who most consistently beats everyone else at starting individual episode threads, and who claims to be giving up on the series only to return the next season. > > I clicked into this thread expecting to read someone making fun of someone else’s taste in literature. Instead, I got what is probably the best plot-twist in the whole series of threads ruined. Thanks a lot, **SenorBeef**. No kidding! There should be a rule, for the purpose of this thread, no other threads exist. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/91 "2015-05-10T09:44:17Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I think **DrDeth** is, in general and in all aspects, a world-class jerk. > > That said, I think that **SenorBeef** could shut the fuck up about it. And _I_ think it’s better than GoT. Can’t wait for the next episode. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/92 "2015-05-14T23:07:29Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > And _I_ think it’s better than GoT. Can’t wait for the next episode. Speaking of such, we have a [new development](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=756938). Plus [confirmation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18365438#post18365438) of DrDeth’s heelface turn. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/93 "2015-05-14T23:38:30Z")
Is it true in the _GoT_ books that Darth Vader is Jon Snow’s father? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/94 "2015-05-15T03:04:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Speaking of such, we have a [new development](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=756938). Plus [confirmation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18365438#post18365438) of DrDeth’s heelface turn. \*\*I have always been against spoilers. \*\* However, did we need a dozen posts\* piling on the guest? He doesnt post often, he is likely not aware. But yeah, delete it. - and yeah, i was one of them. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223/95 "2015-05-15T03:07:59Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > And _I_ think it’s better than GoT. Can’t wait for the next episode. It’s moving faster than Game of Thrones at this point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-read-some-fantasy-books-hes-very-proud-of-it-its-probably-his-biggest-accomplishment/719223.md?page=4)