# DrDeth vs Hurricane Ditka: who's the bigger troll? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958 "2019-04-23T22:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/101 "2019-05-04T03:18:56Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/102 "2019-05-04T04:30:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because when I try to read your minds, that’s all there is to see. > > Regards, > > Shodan Fuck off, you racist piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/103 "2019-05-04T12:31:51Z")
Like I said - nothing there but reflex. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/104 "2019-05-05T15:01:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because when I try to read your minds, that’s all there is to see. > > Regards, > Shodan Y’know, I tend to have a very small Ignore list (there’s all of two Dopers on it right now, and even the second one is a recent addition) because even people I consistently disagree with usually have some worthwhile things to say, even if it’s just arguments for their positions I disagree with that merit a response. But why should I keep someone with the attitude you express of _my_ Ignore list, when you’re basically saying that me and my kind don’t have anything worthwhile to say? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/105 "2019-05-05T15:07:42Z")
> [@Kamala owns a gun "for personal safety"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-owns-a-gun-for-personal-safety/832465/367): > > Boy that must have taken you HOURS. :rolleyes: And, all it proves is that I was unable to give you a cite for something that really is meaningless. You have not proven me wrong, you just say I am wrong. And of course you dont want to violate the rules and call me a liar, even tho you clearly want to. > > But that’s Ok. Ok, I dont have a cite that will make you happy for one of my claims. > > Do you have any cites? For anything? Here is **DrDeth** marveling at the amount of time it must take to keep track of all the false and misleading statements he made in a single thread. For the record, it didn’t take hours, and I don’t think it’s even a complete list. He almost certainly spewed more bullshit than just the 32 instances I documented. I probably missed some. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/106 "2019-05-05T15:25:37Z")
What I really came by here to say, though, is that **DrDeth** is being a first-class shithead in the “[Is Touching Co-Workers OK](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=874974)?” thread, and taking up a lot of space in the thread while doing so. I might put him on Ignore temporarily, just to make it easier to read the damn thread. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/107 "2019-05-05T15:48:10Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > What I really came by here to say, though, is that **DrDeth** is being a first-class shithead in the “[Is Touching Co-Workers OK](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=874974)?” thread, and taking up a lot of space in the thread while doing so. I might put him on Ignore temporarily, just to make it easier to read the damn thread. Whatever are you talking about? His only posts to that thread in the last 36 hours are these: > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/111): > > Because > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/112): > > Does > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/118): > > What > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/152): > > I > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/153): > > They > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/154): > > A > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/155): > > Can > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/156): > > Do > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/157): > > It > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/158): > > “_Any_ …” [these past seven were all in a row] > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/161): > > Here > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/175): > > As > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/176): > > Because > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/177): > > Hardly. > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/182): > > It’s > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/185): > > Larry > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/196): > > I > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/197): > > You > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/198): > > Mild > [@Is touching co-workers OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-touching-co-workers-ok/833424/199): > > I oh wait now I see it ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/108 "2019-05-05T16:18:47Z")
That must have taken hours. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/109 "2019-05-06T17:20:48Z")
[Doesn’t take much to convince Doc of anything.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875123) Convincing him out of anything, OTOH… ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/110 "2019-05-06T19:14:21Z")
I just heard back from a guy. He said that private conversations, that we don’t know anything about, and that may not even have occurred, don’t tell us sweet fuck all about anything. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/111 "2019-05-06T20:17:39Z")
Deth is basically your cliche headstrong American. I don’t know of another country that would produce a citizen that would make unpaid posts accusing smokers of not giving a shit about the 50,000 nonsmokers they murder every year. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/112 "2019-06-27T16:51:34Z")
[In which Doc assumes random guys are in for a world of hurt for looking creepy.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877821) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/113 "2019-06-27T17:49:17Z")
And women aren’t fair! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/114 "2019-06-27T18:36:06Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [In which Doc assumes random guys are in for a world of hurt for looking creepy.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877821) Poor guy got himself the vapors over a hypothetical case of a woman beating up a man for doing nothing more than creepily following her around a store. Oh,the humanity! Won’t someone look out for all the creepy guys that could hypothetically get beaten up at some point? Now I’ve gone and given myself the vapors too! I’m calling my Senators! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/115 "2019-06-27T19:25:29Z")
As I said earlier: > [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Doesn’t take much to convince Doc of anything.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875123) Convincing him out of anything, OTOH… ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/116 "2019-06-27T20:22:31Z")
Somehow DrDeth has flown below my radar (wait, is he the rabid hater of bicyclists?), but now he’s front and center as Grade A Dumbshit. Jesus H X, what a maroon! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/117 "2019-06-27T21:22:59Z")
I’m not a follower of **DrDeth** but I do know that he appears like clockwork in any thread about guns, defending them til the cows come home. And in case anyone missed his broken-record diatribes, understand that it’s completely fair to compare the US gun death rate with that of Mexico, just in case anyone was wondering, and anyone who doesn’t think so is a bigot. It’s _ **not at all fair** _ to compare the US gun death rate with the UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Germany, Australia, Finland, Japan, New Zealand, or any of the other countries in the civilized world where gun death rates are an order of magnitude or two orders of magnitude less than the US, because that wouldn’t be nice. But go ahead and compare US gun death rates with those in Mexico and Yemen, because that’s fair. So **DrDeth** is basically a motivated hot-headed gun nut and that’s about the limits of my experience with him. But the fucker doesn’t even hold a candle to **Ditka** , who is nothing more than a shit-disturbing opprobrious troll who has intentionally caused more well-meaning posters to run afoul of the rules than any other trolling shithead I have ever encountered here, and should be banned for that alone. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/118 "2019-06-27T21:40:28Z")
There is also no fringe pseudo-science that he won’t vigorously defend against mainstream scholarship. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/119 "2019-06-28T01:44:20Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [In which Doc assumes random guys are in for a world of hurt for looking creepy.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=877821) That thread seems like a lot of argument for an unsourced meme on Facebook. Do other people take memes that seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958/120 "2019-06-28T03:29:33Z")
My 14 year old son does. Grown people, not so much. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-vs-hurricane-ditka-whos-the-bigger-troll/832958.md?page=7)