# Dream On, Fattie!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 3, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162 "2003-04-03T09:17:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/61 "2003-04-03T16:17:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \*  
> \*\*Just curious – has anyone seen **Clint** say anything the least bit useful, or friendly, or intelligent? I’ve not, but maybe he’s a big contributor in General Questions or something.
> 
> Daniel \*\*

Nope.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/62 "2003-04-03T16:21:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \*  
> Just curious – has anyone seen **Clint** say anything the least bit useful, or friendly, or intelligent?

No.

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**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/63 "2003-04-03T16:27:58Z")

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Fat & skinny went to bed, fat rolled over and skinny was dead…

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/64 "2003-04-03T16:38:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TaxGuy \*  
> \*\*uptight Jesus people \*\*

Must…resist…urge…nah, fuck it.

BAND NAME!

Anyway, regarding the OP: You can’t have it both ways–there’s no such thing as a “half-troll” here. Especially when you’re writing an OP which is just begging to get your ass handed to you by 99.9% of the Board.

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**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/65 "2003-04-03T16:40:01Z")

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Okay, so the OP is ‘shallow’. So are most people. People discriminate against others based on their physical appearance. It could be because they’re overweight, underweight, too short, too tall, whatever. What’s the big deal? If a person doesn’t want anything to do with you because of the way you look, move on.

I think the OP just said aloud what a lot of people secretly think but keep to themselves. You can try to control what people say, but you’re not going to control what they think.

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**Author:** ![Dravin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dravin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dravin)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/66 "2003-04-03T16:51:40Z")

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> Don’t these fat people realize they shouldn’t be asking out people who weigh hundreds of pounds less than them? They are only letting themselves down, really.

I know, I mean since the dawn of mankind somebody who could be considered fat has never hit it off with somebody would could be considered skinny, it’s like against the laws of nature man!

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/67 "2003-04-03T16:57:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \*  
> **Just curious – has anyone seen Clint say anything the least bit useful, or friendly, or intelligent?**

Nope.

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> **I’ve not, but maybe he’s a big contributor in General Questions or something.**

Ha. Yeah right.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/68 "2003-04-03T17:09:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> **assholes are forever.**

Wan’t that a James Bond film?

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/69 "2003-04-03T17:11:12Z")

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Hello everyone!

Uptight Fat Woman here! Very defensive about my size and will be the first to waddle up the hill carrying the flag of my cause. (Running is out of the question at my size.) Queen of the Lard Brigade (I think I’ll have to add that to my sig.) My my We’re all a bit testy this morning.

Is the OP Shallow? Definately - but that typically goes with being a teenager, for that matter. This is why I never dated anyone under 21. (Did I mention that I started dating at 15 - so much for fat girls only dating within their species.)

But being so nasty makes him an asshat. Personally, I hope he develops severe acne or warts or something. Nothing permanent, mind you. Just enough that he’ll know what it’s like to be ridiculed and then get better and be a better human being for having gone through it. Pain builds character.

So yep, the OP is nothing more than a teenage asshat. He’ll grow up eventually.

Oh and sweetie? I hope you can read latin…

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/70 "2003-04-03T17:24:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TaxGuy \*  
> \*\*Um, first, I probably won’t be “offended” by anything posted on this board because I don’t get offended all that easily. Second, if I ever am offended, you probably won’t know about it because I see little purpose in piping up and saying “Color me offended” just for the hell of it. I don’t believe the argument that such piping counts as “fighting ignorance” either; I think that people that raise their hand to register offense just get some little thrill out of what they feel is righteous indignation. \*\*

It has to be challenged. If even one comment makes him rethink his opinions on how he judges people, then ignorance is fought.

Rather than take it as a compliment that someone found him attractive, he was confused that an overweight person thought they might have a chance with him. If he finds overweight people unattractive people, thats his preference. Noone here demands that he should.

However, just because he is not overweight does not give him grounds to build himself into an ivory tower. Everybody has prejudices. They are built into society. Its how you react to them that counts.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/71 "2003-04-03T17:27:13Z")

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Oh, and Clint is a fuckknuckle.

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**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/72 "2003-04-03T17:52:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Everybody has prejudices. They are built into society. Its how you react to them that counts. \*\*

Word. I’m saying that how people react here is by bitching and moaning for pages and pages, saying the exact same thing, over and over, and then over again, and everyone that’s the slightest bit overweight or has an overweight SO/friend/pet/boss/realtor/tax lawyer has to pipe up and say “I’m offended” simply to get something off of their chest in a way that doesn’t enlighten or amuse or do anything to anybody else.

Which brings up the more general point that if you’re posting just to please yourself (i.e., you are trying to get something off your chest rather than actually communicate something to someone), then either start an MPSIMS thread or hit back instead of submit. On many occasions I’ve written something, then, upon reading it before submitting it, I’ve decided that I just really wanted to say that, and anyone tha read it would think “Ok, great, thanks for that, I guess he just needed to get that off his chest.”

All of these Pipers are like hecklers at a speech.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/73 "2003-04-03T18:10:03Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Janx \*  
\*\*When come back bring pie… \*\*[/  
Make it a bag of carrots for me. I’m watching my figure.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/74 "2003-04-03T18:28:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jesseboy \*  
> **It is half serious b/c this this did in fact happen and i remember thinking to myself “Hmmm…that girl actually thought she had a shot with me…interesting.” Who here has never had a thought like in a similar situation?**

I know exactly what you mean, dear. I often have had the same thought about the occasional guys, who seem to think that _just because_ they’re skinny and good looking, they’d have a chance with me. Of course they’d _never_ have a chance with me in a million billion years because they invariably turn out to be cocky, shallow, self-centered assholes.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/75 "2003-04-03T18:35:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \*  
> \*\*  
> Let me try to put this in a way you can understand. [Puts hand on hip, does Rikki-Lake-guest head-bobble-finger-wave-thing] Bitch, you ain’t all that! \*\*

What if he were? Would it make his attitude any more acceptable? His attractiveness or lack thereof is utterly beside the point, don’t you think? And isn’t attacking his relative attractiveness sorta getting down and playing in his mud?

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/76 "2003-04-03T18:43:02Z")

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People are never as attractive as they think they are, simply because the attitude of “Oh, boy, I’m hot shit!” _makes_ them unattractive. The OP could be Richard Gere wrapped up in Tom Cruise, rolled into a Brad Pitt coating, and his bad attitude would still make him ugly as fuck. Why on Earth he thinks an asshat like himself would stand a chance with an actual human being, I don’t really understand.

I was just trying to put it into a) small words and b) an idiotic attitude to so the OP wouldn’t have to strain himself too hard to understand. (I was also trying to be funny, but apparently it didn’t work.)

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/77 "2003-04-03T19:05:18Z")

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I just today wrote/read a speech about something related to this. Let me quote myself directly:D:

“First: being overweight, unless you are unable to walk or see your feet, is not going to kill you. Yes, it may cause health problems for you when your grandchildren are in their teens, but even people who live in thir 20s to be fit in their 70s develop heealth problems. Most human beings, however healthy they try to be, don’t hit 80 years old. Many don’t hit 70 or 60. The way you eat si very unlikely to drastically lower your quality of life. So instead of working to lose those annoying extra five pounds, realize you are probably the only one who is bothered by them. Your employer most likely doesn’t care as long as you do your job well. Your significant other shouldn’t care. So eat the foods you like. As long as they aren’t full of arsenic or shrapnel, and your diet doesn’t consist solely of chocolate and deep-fried fat, you’re pretty much set. Ignore what the media tell you about what beauty is, because they’re under the mistaken impression that people should look like either wire coat hangers or walking muscles. Those are extremes of the body types that exist, and starving yourself to be the same size you were they you were ten isn’t just stupid, it’s not healthy.”

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/78 "2003-04-03T19:10:54Z")

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But I really like shrapnel! Oh, wait, those are Grape Nuts…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/79 "2003-04-03T19:29:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stoid \*  
> \*\*What if he were? Would it make his attitude any more acceptable? His attractiveness or lack thereof is utterly beside the point, don’t you think? And isn’t attacking his relative attractiveness sorta getting down and playing in his mud? \*\*

But see, that’s just it, **Stoid**. The very fact that he’s an asshole is what makes him unattractive. He could be an exact duplicate of Goran Visnjic, and I’d STILL find him about as attractive and sexy as Adolf Hitler’s corpse.

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> As long as they aren’t full of arsenic or shrapnel, and your diet doesn’t consist solely of chocolate and deep-fried fat, you’re pretty much set.

Patrick, what if my diet consists solely of chocolate that was deep-fried in fat?

(I’d better break the bad news to **Lissla**! LOL!)

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**Author:** ![Einmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Einmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einmon)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dream-on-fattie/166162/80 "2003-04-03T19:32:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DeVena \*  
> \*\*Oh and sweetie? I hope you can read latin… \*\*

Hehe…good joke 😃

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