# Dreamworks to make live action 3D 'Ghost in the Shell' movie
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779
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**Created:** [January 21, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779 "2010-01-21T01:21:44Z")
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/1 "2010-01-21T01:21:44Z")
[http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117984029.html?categoryid=1237&cs=1](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117984029.html?categoryid=1237&cs=1)
Interesting. So I’m sort of picturing something that visually will look something between The Matrix and Minority Report. You know… [since the Wachowski brothers freely admit to be heavily influenced by GinS (start about 1:30),](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tF7TL0Qh4)
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/2 "2010-01-21T06:38:46Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> **Speilberg to make live action 3D ‘Ghost in the Shell’ movie**
_Dreamworks_ is producing it, not specifically with Steven Spielberg directing.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/3 "2010-01-21T14:11:53Z")
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> “‘Ghost in the Shell’ is one of my favorite stories,” Spielberg said. “It’s a genre that has arrived, and we enthusiastically welcome it to DreamWorks.”
I hope there was some context which makes this remark seem less asinine.
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### Author:  [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/4 "2010-01-21T14:32:59Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I hope there was some context which makes this remark seem less asinine.
James Cameron is making a 3D Battle Angel Alita.
The 3D Female Cyborg genre has arrived.
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/5 "2010-01-21T14:37:38Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> _Dreamworks_ is producing it, not specifically with Steven Spielberg directing.
Indeed.:smack:
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I hope there was some context which makes this remark seem less asinine.
What makes this remark asinine? I mean other than it is a genre that arived into the mainstream ten years ago.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/6 "2010-01-21T15:45:05Z")
So how are they gonna handle the nudity?
I mean (IIRC) to be invisible chicks gotta be naked right? I highly doubt Dreamworks (more like…wet dreamworks) is gonna have naked chicks running around the entire time.
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### Author:  [@A.Selene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.Selene)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/7 "2010-01-21T18:38:23Z")
Shit. :eek: This could be awesome, I love Ghost in the Shell. Especially Stand Alone Complex. But I always worry about a new interpretation of a story I already love. This could suck. :dubious:
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### Author:  [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/8 "2010-01-21T18:56:00Z")
Not really surprised that this has happened, after Avatar. However, I’m very concerned that without proper managment, this will be dumbed down a lot\*, or micromanaged into the ground.
Also, GITS always struck me as very ‘hard’ sci-fi. Masamune Shirow litters his albums with footnotes and casual info about all the tech involved, it would be a shame to see this regress into hollywood ‘physics? what physics?’
\*Of course, GITS2; Innocence was a bit much, but I’m hoping they’ll be able to strike a proper balance.
And if it doesn’t work out, there’s always the three or four other GITS universes left.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/9 "2010-01-21T19:52:27Z")
Is this the first time Hollywood has re-made an anime into live-action?
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/10 "2010-01-21T19:54:31Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> Indeed.:smack:
I’m editing the thread title from “Spielberg to make” to “Dreamworks to make…” I’ll revise it further if you like.
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/11 "2010-01-21T20:07:31Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is this the first time Hollywood has re-made an anime into live-action?
No. Fist of the North Star, the Guyver and Dragon Ball - at the very least\* - have all beaten it.
- Those three are just the ones I can think of odd the top of my head. There are likely others. There have also been aborted attempts at Gunnm and Robotech. And Evangelion’s been in the works forever.
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### Author:  [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/12 "2010-01-21T20:23:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is this the first time Hollywood has re-made an anime into live-action?
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> No. Fist of the North Star, the Guyver and Dragon Ball - at the very least\* - have all beaten it.
Still previous efforts don’t seem to have attracted a lot of money/talent/attention. Seems to be a new crop of more serious attempts: GiTS, Cowboy Beebop and Avatar, the Last Airbender (yea, I know, not technically an anime, but close enough) all have films up coming with big names attached.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/13 "2010-01-21T20:29:05Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> What makes this remark asinine? I mean other than it is a genre that arived into the mainstream ten years ago.
I can’t quite make out if this is a sincere question or ironic agreement, so I’ll just answer anyway.
I think it would be asinine enough if the genre had mainstreamed as recently as ten years ago. However, it seems to me that the watershed was in the late eighties, with the North American releases of _Akira_, _Macross_, and _Ghost in the Shell_.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/14 "2010-01-22T00:36:52Z")
Akira and Macross are the same medium as Ghost in the Shell, not the same genre. Or at least, not the same subgenre: I suppose they’re all science fiction.
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/15 "2010-01-22T03:14:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> Akira and Macross are the same medium as Ghost in the Shell, not the same genre. Or at least, not the same subgenre: I suppose they’re all science fiction.
GitS and Akira are in the same genre, I’d argue. Akira concentrates on biotech, and GitS on cybertech, but they’re both stylistic, near future dystopian, partially political action stories, with overlays of philosophy and exploration of the effects of the technology. (GitS does more of both those last, to be sure, but it _is_ there in Akira.)
Macross, on the other hand is a _completely_ different genre. (Well, aside from being SF, as you said.)
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/16 "2010-01-22T03:31:26Z")
> [@Tengu](#):
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> No. Fist of the North Star, the Guyver and Dragon Ball - at the very least\* - have all beaten it.
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> - Those three are just the ones I can think of odd the top of my head. There are likely others. There have also been aborted attempts at Gunnm and Robotech. And Evangelion’s been in the works forever.
And of course the obvious Speed Racer.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/17 "2010-01-23T02:30:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> Akira and Macross are the same medium as Ghost in the Shell, not the same genre. Or at least, not the same subgenre: I suppose they’re all science fiction.
Wait a minute… I’m having a complete brainfart.
I don’t think I’ve even seen Macross - I love mecha games, but mecha anime bores the tits right off me. What is the movie about a virtual pop idol that takes input from the audiences brainwaves, and ends up being hacked? For some reason my brain has supplied “Macross” as the title, and that clearly ain’t it.
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/18 "2010-01-23T02:46:38Z")
Sounds like you’ve muddled the plot of Macross Plus (the second sequel series (5th sequel)) - that involved a computer generated singer, but she’s not hacked (at least not as part of the main plot - I think one of the characters messes with her at one point) - though she is illegally upgraded - and her emotions came from one character, her ‘producer’.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/19 "2010-01-23T02:53:44Z")
Thanks. (Muddling is what I do best.)
Especially with movies I saw 15 years ago on acid.
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### Author:  [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dreamworks-to-make-live-action-3d-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/525779/20 "2010-01-23T04:50:16Z")
> [@Carmady](#):
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> James Cameron is making a 3D Battle Angel Alita.
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> The 3D Female Cyborg genre has arrived.
He’s been talking about that longer than he talked about Avatar. I’ll believe it when I see it.
As for the OP’s news; it’s not that Dreamworks is making a live action Ghost in the Shell movie. They’ve acquired the rights to make a live action Ghost in the Shell movie. If I had a nickel for every time someone said “They’re moving a \_\_\_\_\_\_ movie!” when the rights had been acquired and no film is ever made I’d be able to finance my own Thundercats Versus Go-Bots movie.
> [@Tengu](#):
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> Sounds like you’ve muddled the plot of Macross Plus (the second sequel series (5th sequel)) - that involved a computer generated singer, but she’s not hacked (at least not as part of the main plot - I think one of the characters messes with her at one point) - though she is illegally upgraded - and her emotions came from one character, her ‘producer’.
A character does hack the virtual singer and it might have been that hack that broke the AI enough that it wound up flipping out, but it’s fairly ambiguous. He tinkers with her at a concert and later it goes nuts but there’s other factors as you mentioned so the whole thing is circumstantial.
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