# Drive   4/23

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 23, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323 "2007-04-23T15:37:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/1 "2007-04-23T15:37:30Z")

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Drat…I am subbing tonight and will have to watch the tape later. But here is the thread for this new show and its third episode.  
Discuss.

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### Author: ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/2 "2007-04-24T00:44:55Z")

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bump

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/3 "2007-04-24T00:46:12Z")

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It would have been nice if they hadn’t given away the bank angle in last week’s previews.

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/4 "2007-04-24T00:52:19Z")

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…And our first “Go!Go!Go!”

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/5 "2007-04-24T04:51:39Z")

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I’m liking this show, but I wonder for how much longer.

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### Author: ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/6 "2007-04-24T06:36:16Z")

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I’m liking it too. Not enough comic relief this week tho. Too heavy too often.

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### Author: ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/7 "2007-04-24T12:43:13Z")

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I’m just wondering if they’re going to change the credits every time somebody dies.

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### Author: ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/8 "2007-04-24T14:49:23Z")

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It’d be so cool if everything was filmed where it’s actually supposed to be happening. (I’m pretty sure that wasn’t Rome, Georgia, unless a lot of seagulls got off the bus that day.) Note that the bank was in the imaginary town of Sweewater, GA, located in what is actually The Middle of Nowhere, Georgia.

Always nice to see American muscle cars. A modern European or Japanese sedan might actually perform better (and would certainly be more reliable), but it’s just not as photogenic as early-70’s Detroit Iron. (I’m missing my '67 Mustang.)

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### Author: ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/9 "2007-04-24T15:02:02Z")

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I watched the pilot, missed last week’s episode, but caught it again last night and was fascinated by the credits. For example, they show Violet riding in the back seat of a car, but do not show her (terminally ill) father. They show Ivy riding with her former partner (the non-dead one), not in the mini-van with the crazy mother. And they show Sean riding with Winston, which makes me think the bullet would will not be fatal.

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/10 "2007-04-24T15:31:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
It would have been nice if they hadn’t given away the bank angle in last week’s previews.  
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Hell, they gave that away in the previews after the 2-hour premiere!

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### Author: ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/11 "2007-04-24T15:43:45Z")

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There’s too much unresolved with Sean to kill him yet.

Also, they’ve effectively eliminated two teams this week. A third would be overkill.

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### Author: ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/12 "2007-04-24T16:00:18Z")

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I’m on the very cusp of abandoning this show, and the only thing that’s keeping me in is Nathan Fillion. All the other actors (except Dylan Baker, MIA last night) are horrible and their characters are not remotely sympathetic. The bitch who can’t drive, the weepy Mommy, the gangbanger who says “Holmes” a lot, the newlywed who’s afraid of becoming a war widow, the whacked-out God-lover on a “mission”: these are all characters that already border on the tiresome or cliched (thanks to the subpar writing), so what they need are actors who can bridge that credulity gap and deliver the goods.

Not one of them does. They’re all terrible (and that also goes for the vengeance-minded sidekick, the RichBoy, and the angsty teenager), and while I am enjoying Alex’s crisis of conscience and his intensity, it may not be enough to keep me going since everyone around him (as characters and colleagues) aren’t even remotely close to pulling their own weight.

Just goes to show how ensemble-driven projects are much harder to pull off than they appear. **Lost** may have its issues, but it looks like Chekov next to this. ☹

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/13 "2007-04-24T16:37:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
…And our first “Go!Go!Go!”  
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I counted. There were four “go!”.

Misquoting is so lame, dude!

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> I’m just wondering if they’re going to change the credits every time somebody dies.

Actually, I noticed last week that only one of the black women was in the opening credits. I thought the penalty was going to be her getting shot, but I guess not.

FTR, “dad” isn’t in the opening credits either. Never was.

-Joe, joe, joe, joe!

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### Author: ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/14 "2007-04-24T16:59:45Z")

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Yeah…who the heck is playing ailing dad, anyway?

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/15 "2007-04-24T23:10:09Z")

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[QUOTE=vivalostwages]  
Yeah…who the heck is playing ailing dad, anyway?  
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The phenomenal character actor [Dylan Baker](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0048414/). He managed to make the excerable _Happiness_ almost watchable. He also plays Dr.  
Curt Connors in the Spiderman movies, so maybe he’ll turn into the Lizard sometime.

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### Author: ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/16 "2007-04-25T20:37:53Z")

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Well, [poo](http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/700000049).

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### Author: ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/17 "2007-04-25T20:51:12Z")

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What is it about Tim Minear that gets his shows canceled before they get started? This show had potential to be great, but they just didn’t give it a chance! Same with Wonderfalls. If they hate his shows so much, why do they keep buying them?

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/18 "2007-04-25T20:51:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]  
Well, [poo](http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/700000049).  
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Jesus Christ, **ALREADY**?

-Joe

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/19 "2007-04-25T22:13:51Z")

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He’s got to stop working with Fox.

This sucks. I liked Drive.

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### Author: ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-4-23/401323/20 "2007-04-25T22:21:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
He’s got to stop working with Fox.

This sucks. I liked Drive.  
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Seriously. Whedon and friends should just stop pitching to Fox. I’m not saying that this cancellation is entirely Fox’s fault, as they’ve actually been advertising it, but to kill it so soon kinda shows that they didn’t have much faith in it.

I’ve been expecting it to get killed even before it ever aired. If you’re a friend of Whedon’s, and the show you’re working on is a mid-season replacement, you might as well start looking for work before the first episode airs.

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