# Drive-by Jeezer Postings **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 30, 2000, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362 "2000-08-30T17:09:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/41 "2000-08-31T18:20:13Z")
> [@](#): > > When did I ever say I was an expert on religion. I’m > mediocre at mine at best. I got saved when I was young but backslid for many years and recentely I am > trying harder to serve the Lord. You started the witnessing [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=36473) in GD. If you witness, you are automatically setting yourself up as an expert, or at least someone well-grounded in his faith. Don’t do it unless you can take the shots. > [@](#): > > I would also appreciate that you stop lecturing me about my faith that you couldn’t handle so you quit. I don’t have much respect for quiters and your a quiter. No, I realized that there was no God, and I needed to stop fooling myself. Christians tend to be less educated and more bigoted than freethinkers, or at least in my experience, they are. I’ll say it again: I don’t believe Jesus rose from the grave, and I don’t think God exists. Let’s make a deal. I won’t bust you on your spelling and grammar if you promise to stop preaching about Jesus. > [@](#): > > Besides if you think a Hyundai is better than a Ford, your not as intellectual as I thought. What do you have against shoddily built Korean cars that break down constantly? Besides, when I was living in Seoul, having a Hyundai Grandeur was considered a sign of finacial status. (seriously!) ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/42 "2000-08-31T18:25:32Z")
[quote] That’s _financial_! Pardon me while I beat myself with my dictionary this time. ---
**Author:** ![Lauralee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lauralee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lauralee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/43 "2000-08-31T18:31:00Z")
And maybe before it’s all over, we’ll all learn to use the Preview option! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/44 "2000-08-31T22:15:42Z")
Witnessing is best done with your life. People who act like Jesus would want them to. People who don’t “preach”, yet get the message across. People who don’t believe they and their church are the ONLY right ones, everyone else is wrong somewhat. That is seriously snobby. And whats with the derogatory Jeezer? I am a christian, non denominational. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/45 "2000-08-31T23:00:26Z")
I’ve gone back and re-read my initial response to Wildest Bill where I said: > [@](#): > > **I may not make this as clear as I mean to, but try to follow me. > As soon as you start talking about God, in your mind you have a definite > idea of what you mean. It seems to me that you are not so much trying to > describe it to me, but you seem to assume I already know what you mean, > and I just don’t agree with you.** After reading it again, _I_ didn’t even follow it. That’s been gnawing at me. But here is another view point on what I was trying to say. This make just as little sense, but fuck it, I just thought of it and I’m sitting in front of my computer, so here goes… When having a discussion or argument about Christianity, and said Christian cites the Bible, it seems as though he just cannot comprehend that I consider the Bible as a collection of parables not be taken literally, but rather as a sort of guide book. So, If I’m confronted with … “Jesus sure did get mad when he freaked out on those peddlers.” I may as well come back with , “Yeah well that tortoise sure kicked the crap out of the hare in that race.” It’s a non-sequitur as far as I’m considered. On the other hand, if someone says, “The Bible teaches us that we ought to turn the other cheek” That’s fine with me. Just don’t cite the Bible as an historical record. 'Cause it ain’t. Can I get a Amen? ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/46 "2000-08-31T23:04:46Z")
Sort of a hi-jack: Recently, while I was visiting my next door neighbor, two Mormon missionaries came to her door. She answered the door and was going to tell them to get lost, but I told her, “I’ll invite them over to my house.” While this may sound a little strange, I like to meet people who are different from me, so I invited these two young men to sit in my backyard around the picnic table and talk to me. Up front I told them I am agnostic and pretty happy with my belief system (or lack thereof). We discussed the Bible and the Book of Mormon (I have my own copy from a time in my life when I belonged to a Mormon off-shoot), and I asked them about their families and where they come from. I introduced them to my family and all the pets, and they talked sports with my s.o. for a while, and then left. I have seen them a couple of times since; once by chance and once by appointment. What I tell these guys is, although they are not going to convert me, they are witnessing for their church just by being nice people. I don’t know if all Mormon missionaries are like this, but these two sure are nice. My point in relating this is that these guys are doing what they have been raised to believe is right. They are also pretty intelligent and were open to talking about other things besides religion. The fundies that do the “I must save souls” threads are losing ground for their cause by their method. The poster vanilla put it rather succinctly by saying “Witnessing is best done with your life.” ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/47 "2000-09-01T16:57:45Z")
It’s all well and good to make new friends, but if you met these guys and they were specifically on their mission, they ain’t hanging around you because they like your cats - their ultimate goal is, by either convincing you verbally or by showing you the way by their own actions, seeing you accept Mormonism into your life. That’s the whole point of a mission, n’est-ce pas? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362/48 "2000-09-01T17:22:54Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s the whole point of a mission, n’est-ce pas? Of course, you’re right about that, but I think in a way I am trying to do a little witnessing too. Just because I am a liberal agnostic and a mother in my forties, I guess I want to give them a different slant on what it means to be an agnostic. My brother tells me that these Mormon missions almost NEVER convert anyone. Do Mormons have a reputation for being as annoying as some of the other brands of door-to-door sellers of religion? These two have not been annoying to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-by-jeezer-postings/31362.md?page=2)