# Drive -- new Fox show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 14, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122 "2007-04-14T17:26:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/21 "2007-04-15T12:33:03Z")
Well I missed Prison Break when it started. (I have since caught up, including a season 2 binge where I watched 13 eps back to back to back to… you get the idea. I think this show will be similar to Prison Break. (Then again, they sure did seem to imply that durring Prison Break commercial time.) I’m In. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/22 "2007-04-15T12:52:48Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] … Anyway, they have to race to a certain place based on clues that are text-messaged to them. When they get there, they are given the next clue and have to head to the next place. The race isn’t just speed, although it’s advantageous to get to each checkpoint before others do. But it’s also a battle of wits and strategy. Directives can be misleading. Simple clues turn out to be more complex. You have to think. [/QUOTE] so wait it’s “The Amazing Race” with (I assume) death? Brian ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/23 "2007-04-15T14:09:08Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] For those who don’t know, Minear was one of the creative forces behind ‘Firefly’, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and “Wonderfalls”. I’ve yet to see anything he’s done that I didn’t love. [/QUOTE] He never worked on Buffy actually. He was, however, very involved with Angel, the spinoff. Excuse me, I hear a super-nerd meeting being called. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/24 "2007-04-15T16:31:00Z")
[QUOTE=N9IWP] so wait it’s “The Amazing Race” with (I assume) death? Brian [/QUOTE] It’s the Fox Network, so it’ll have sex too, maybe even some lesbians. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/25 "2007-04-15T16:37:57Z")
Fun show, I’ll keep watching it. It is total escapism though I caught myself checking the rear view mirror a few too many times while I drove. – IG ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/26 "2007-04-15T17:41:02Z")
Oh, I forgot to mention that the soundtrack rocks. The driving scenes are done to music like “Radar Love” by Golden Earring and “Roadhouse Blues” by the Doors. Mostly covers, but well done. I’m guessing the producers made a big list of the best driving songs, and use them. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/27 "2007-04-15T19:20:34Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] The driving scenes are done to music like … “Roadhouse Blues” by the Doors. [/QUOTE] I submit that no one at FOX has that much class. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/28 "2007-04-15T23:29:03Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] I submit that no one at FOX has that much class. [/QUOTE] Except possibly the folks who choose the songs played towards the end of most episodes of **House**. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/29 "2007-04-16T00:22:33Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages] Except possibly the folks who choose the songs played towards the end of most episodes of **House**. [/QUOTE] I don’t watch _House_. I detest Doctor shows and Cop shows. I will concede that disqualifies me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/30 "2007-04-16T01:50:59Z")
Hey, this is actually pretty good. Of course, that means it’ll be cancelled in a month. ☹ I don’t see how they can possibly resolve this. Aliens? And who’s the creepy little guy reffing the thing. I know I’ve seen him before… ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/31 "2007-04-16T02:02:21Z")
I’m on the fence. Something is missing. It feels as if something is held back. I will give it too more episodes. If it doesn’t speed close to the drama and tension of 24 and PrisonBreak, I’m out. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/32 "2007-04-16T02:11:33Z")
Liked what I watched of it tonight. Will make time to go over the DV-R in more detail. Very fun sense to it, mixed up with the tension. This may be silly, but the show to me has already acquired an unofficial catchphrase, which is simply “Go GO GO!!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/33 "2007-04-16T02:13:07Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] I’m on the fence. Something is missing. It feels as if something is held back. . [/QUOTE] Right. I agree with that idea. Something is…off. I feel the show has been changed by Fox from what it was. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/34 "2007-04-16T02:16:42Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] And who’s the creepy little guy reffing the thing. I know I’ve seen him before… [/quote] Charles Martin Smith, apparently. I don’t recognize any of his credits on a quick run through of his IMDb profile but he has quite a few so I’m guessing he’s just a prolific character actor. His voice reminds me of Wallace Shawn. I watched and enjoyed it but I’m one of those annoying Whedonites that will watch something just because someone from one of his shows is attached. I even watched the short lived Kitchen Confidential for a while because Nicholas Brendon was one of the stars. And on a totally superficial and shallow note, I am already smitten with both J.D. Pardo and Melanie Lynskey. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/35 "2007-04-16T02:28:38Z")
Charles Martin Smith lives in my heart as Terry the Toad from American Graffiti. Stole his friend’s 58 Chevy to impress a girl, whereupon he gets beat up and then pukes on the girl. Who hasn’t done that? It tickled me that the bikers were an older couple. The woman looked familiar. I liked it, but I missed the second half. TiVo says Fox is repeating it tomorrow though. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/36 "2007-04-16T02:36:09Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] It tickled me that the bikers were an older couple. The woman looked familiar. [/QUOTE] K Callan, who played Martha Kent on _Lois & Clark_. She’s been in quite a few other things (including a guest spot on _How I Met Your Mother_ last week), but I always think of her as Martha. I’m definitely hooked. Sure, it might not be what was originally scripted, but I think I can safely say I’ll keep watching. Logically, it can’t last more than a season–unless they start over with different racers, which could be just as much fun. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/37 "2007-04-16T03:48:41Z")
I have to wonder why Tim Minnear still has anything to do with Fox. For that reason, that it involves Minnear on Fox, I think it’s doomed. Fox isn’t good enough for him. I wasn’t following it too closely but wasn’t the black detective talking to Nathan in the beginning of the show, the same guy who played the bounty hunter on Firefly? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/38 "2007-04-16T03:54:34Z")
I missed the first couple minutes of the show (I started watching right about the time Melanie Lynskey was being asked about her bruises) so I missed the detective but I just looked at IMDb and it was indeed Richard Brooks that played the detective. Good eye, **Wile E**. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/39 "2007-04-16T03:59:45Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] I have to wonder why Tim Minnear still has anything to do with Fox. For that reason, that it involves Minnear on Fox, I think it’s doomed. Fox isn’t good enough for him. I wasn’t following it too closely but wasn’t the black detective talking to Nathan in the beginning of the show, the same guy who played the bounty hunter on Firefly? [/QUOTE] Yep. Sounded just like his Jubal Early character, too! We were squeeing a little before the camera pulled around for the reveal. One interesting thing my husband told me (so blame him if it’s wrong) is that there is an astounding amount of digital work being done. Apparently the actors are “never” in cars. Now, I don’t believe it’s never never, 'cause it would seem absurd to do the gas station scenes without real cars, but I would buy that all the \*driving \*is CG. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/40 "2007-04-16T04:15:59Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] And who’s the creepy little guy reffing the thing. I know I’ve seen him before… [/QUOTE] You don’t know Charles Martin Smith? Besides Terry the Toad in _American Graffiti,_ he was the naturalist who went to the tundra to live among wolves in _Never Cry Wolf,_ and one of the Crickets in _The Buddy Holly Story._ I’ve always been a big fan. He also has another Joss Whedon connection. He’s done some TV directing as well as acting, and he directed “Welcome To The Hellmouth,” the _Buffy The Vampire Slayer_ pilot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122.md?page=3)