# Drive -- new Fox show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 14, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122 "2007-04-14T17:26:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/61 "2007-04-16T16:49:49Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Tulley (?) wins the race, they kill the wife anyway, and the rest of the series is spent tracking them down. And get the original artists, dammit! šŸ™‚ [/QUOTE] Yeah, I figured something along those lines too. Seems like abandoning the ā€œcross-country raceā€ format after season one might present a bit of an issue. Would have been like _24_ starting season 2 by ditching the real-time aspect and settling into your basic cloak-and-dagger show. I donā€™t think people would have bought it. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/62 "2007-04-16T17:02:39Z")
[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong] Have they said this will be a 22 episode ā€˜yearā€™? Maybe it could be splitting that time slot with Prison Break ā€“ PB gets Fall/Winter, Drive gets Spring/Summer. [/quote] This season is [is 13 episodes](http://televisionary.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-slows-drive-to-six-episode-initial.html) long, but will have a break in airing after episode 6. As a 13 episode run the pacing of the race shouldnā€™t be an issue and they shouldnā€™t have to contrive too many loop-backs in order to slow progress. This is probably good news and I feel like they should be able to build drama and intensity effectively as the finish approaches come episode 13. > [@](#): > > And perhaps each season could be a new race, with some team winning in the final episode, and then the next season starting with an entire new cast of racers. > > Youā€™d lose some in audience attachment to a particular group of actors. OTOH, they might be able to get ā€˜betterā€™ actors than usual for a show like this if the actors know it was a limited commitment. I figured that somehow they will have to start a new race come season 2. This is one idea but Iā€™d be surprised if the totally ditched Nathan Fillian since heā€™s presumably such a big draw. Itā€™s likely the audience will be invested in him as well as several other characters. Perhaps the plan will be for the mystery-men to trap the same characters competing against their will for a second time and replacing all the simple thrill-and-fortune seekers with new characters. The challenge will be coming up with a believable motivation for the actors to go along a second time if they bait-and-switch on the promises at the end. Itā€™ll also be interesting to see if season 2 is a full run or another short 13 show one. I suspect pacing will get more difficult as the season gets longer. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/63 "2007-04-16T17:15:22Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] Would have been like _24_ starting season 2 by ditching the real-time aspect and settling into your basic cloak-and-dagger show. [/QUOTE] You suggest that as though it would be a _bad_ thing šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/64 "2007-04-16T18:37:42Z")
I watched the first hour or so, I Tivoed the rest so Iā€™ll watch the rest tonight. I thought it was pretty good. Seems like Fillion is pretty much the same character as the captain on Firefly. Not that thatā€™s a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/65 "2007-04-16T21:59:30Z")
One thing that bugged me was the scenery. At one point they were driving towards Cape Canaveral. Could someone tell me which Floridian Mountain Range was in the background? šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/66 "2007-04-16T22:05:21Z")
[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin] One thing that bugged me was the scenery. At one point they were driving towards Cape Canaveral. Could someone tell me which Floridian Mountain Range was in the background? šŸ˜• [/QUOTE] Itā€™s just ā€œThemā€ trying to confuse and disorient our racers. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/67 "2007-04-16T22:56:52Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Tulley (?) wins the race, they kill the wife anyway, and the rest of the series is spent tracking them down. [QUOTE=Omniscient] I figured that somehow they will have to start a new race come season 2. This is one idea but Iā€™d be surprised if the totally ditched Nathan Fillian since heā€™s presumably such a big draw. Itā€™s likely the audience will be invested in him as well as several other characters. Perhaps the plan will be for the mystery-men to trap the same characters competing against their will for a second time and replacing all the simple thrill-and-fortune seekers with new characters. [/QUOTE] They could do both: replace the simple thrill-and-furtune seekers while at the same time Tully and his orphaned partner try to find their Killian. Ooh, how about this: they are coerced into replacing BCD (Black Charger dude). ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/68 "2007-04-17T00:06:05Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] They could do both: replace the simple thrill-and-furtune seekers while at the same time Tully and his orphaned partner try to find their Killian. [/QUOTE] Iā€™m hoping after the end of the race, Alex Tully (Fillian) gets thrown in suspended animation and wakes years later. He then joins the browncoats to fight the alliance, but after a massacre at Serenity, he gets a spaceship and a crew including his best friend and fellow freedom fighter, her husband who happens to be a pilot, a mercenary with a girlsā€™ name, a super-gifter but unsophisticated female mechanic, an old preacher with a past, a high priced and high class prostitute, a genius doctor, and his equally genius, yet terribly mentally damaged sister. God I miss Fireflyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/69 "2007-04-17T00:36:45Z")
[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin] One thing that bugged me was the scenery. At one point they were driving towards Cape Canaveral. Could someone tell me which Floridian Mountain Range was in the background? šŸ˜• [/QUOTE] Space Mountain, obviouslyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/70 "2007-04-17T00:49:40Z")
This show is nuts, clearly they have plenty of _Lost_ like character developments to reveal slowly over the next season. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/71 "2007-04-17T01:09:39Z")
Woah. Just saw tonightā€™s ep. Iā€™m really getting into this. Maybe itā€™s just 'cause I want to, but Iā€™m really seeing some Whedon/Serenity-esque elements here. Particularly characters suddenly revealing hidden depths. [del]Mal[/del] Alex turning out to be not a simple landscaper after all. Also the bits between Dylan Bakerā€“One of my favorite actors, BTW. He almost made _Happiness_ bearableā€“and his daughter were cool. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/72 "2007-04-17T01:43:25Z")
Iā€™ve only seen the first hour so far, and the one thing that immediately worries me is that the Minear/Whedonesque quips seem a bit out of place for Foxā€™s typical hourlong dramas. Chloe gets off about four genuinely funny lines a season on _24_. Anything more would be overkill. That said, I happen to like the quips, so Iā€™ll hang on for a while, at least. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/73 "2007-04-17T01:49:10Z")
I assume weā€™re using this thread for the 4/16 episode as well? ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/74 "2007-04-17T02:17:58Z")
Whats-her-face who rides in the car with Alex called I-75 ā€œthe 75ā€ when she was at the police station. That I know of, the only place in the universe that refers to interstates as ā€œthe **(number)**\_ā€ is California. Is the character from California, or is it a case of the writers slipping up? (The writers for Vanished did the same thing with characters who were supposed to live in Atlanta) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/75 "2007-04-17T02:23:00Z")
She could have lived in California during the 27 years since her parents were killed. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/76 "2007-04-17T02:34:20Z")
She could have, but unless they were specifically trying to make her specifically Californian for a plot point, I donā€™t see the point in having her use such a bizarre construction. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/77 "2007-04-17T02:36:38Z")
Bizarre construction? **Bizarre construction?** My seconds will call upon you in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/78 "2007-04-17T03:43:47Z")
Heā€™s too old for the role, but they really should have brought in the actor who played Adlai Niska on Firefly for the ā€œcopā€ interrogating Tully. ā€œAnd now, Mr. Tully, we get to know the _real_ you.ā€ ā€œYou want to know the real me?!ā€ Iā€™m really liking this show - even the bits without Nathan Fillion are mostly good - although soccer-mom-lady annoys me. And I love that the guy playing the detective is the fellow who played Jubal Early. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/79 "2007-04-17T04:06:00Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Bizarre construction? **Bizarre construction?** [/QUOTE] Heck yeah. ā€œThe [insert number here]ā€ sounds weird as crap to the rest of the universe. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/80 "2007-04-17T04:40:13Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Whats-her-face who rides in the car with Alex called I-75 ā€œthe 75ā€ when she was at the police station. That I know of, the only place in the universe that refers to interstates as ā€œthe **(number)**\_ā€ is California. Is the character from California, or is it a case of the writers slipping up? (The writers for Vanished did the same thing with characters who were supposed to live in Atlanta) [/QUOTE] Oh, we do that here in Phoenix, also. What the heck do you all call it in the other 48 states?!? I thought the show was a lot of fun, and Iā€™m fully invested, but I think itā€™s time for an intervention: [QUOTE=Hamlet] Iā€™m hoping after the end of the race, Alex Tully (Fillian) gets thrown in suspended animation and wakes years later. He then joins the browncoats to fight the alliance, but after a massacre at Serenity, he gets a spaceship and a crew including his best friend and fellow freedom fighter, her husband who happens to be a pilot, a mercenary with a girlsā€™ name, a super-gifter but unsophisticated female mechanic, an old preacher with a past, a high priced and high class prostitute, a genius doctor, and his equally genius, yet terribly mentally damaged sister. [/QUOTE] Youā€™re not the first in this thread, and youā€™re not even the most recent as of this post (Iā€™m looking at you, **Larry** ). But for Godā€™s sake, let go. Please. Youā€™re only hurting yourselfā€¦ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122.md?page=5)