# Drive -- new Fox show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 14, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122 "2007-04-14T17:26:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/101 "2007-04-18T17:17:05Z")
I think the only thing keeping me going is Nathan Fillion and his story arc (and secret character history). Everyone else? His partner is shrill and annoying. NewMama is cloyingly unsympathetic. MilitaryWife is hot but horrible and hubby is dull as dirt. Ditto the Two Brothers. Dylan Baker is interesting but not long for this world I suspect (why else would one of the only two “name” drivers not be included in the opening credits?), and daugther is a Lohan-wannabe. And the whole Shadow Conspiracy booga-booga is warmed over implausability from Fincher’s _The Game_. And after 3 hours, the drive-fast-vroom-vroom-shoulder-speeding has already gotten really boring. But I like Fillion, so I may give it a few more chances just to see where he goes in all this. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/102 "2007-04-18T17:30:07Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] And after 3 hours, the drive-fast-vroom-vroom-shoulder-speeding has already gotten really boring. [/QUOTE] Agreed, I hope it they lay off that. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/103 "2007-04-18T17:37:25Z")
Especially since we’ve already established that it doesn’t matter if you’re first! Just don’t be last! All this pumped-up-high-adrenoline-tire-screeching is boring because the stakes aren’t really that high. In most cases, the drivers know at least they’re not last, so all the “action” seems like stupid posturing and time filler. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/104 "2007-04-18T18:25:51Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] MilitaryWife is hot but horrible [/QUOTE] Are you serious? You think she’s hot?? I think she’s disturbing to look at. She looks like a plastic doll that has been squeezed funny or something. Like her face is about to cave in or her head is about to fold in half or something. I can’t think of a single attractive thing about her, physically. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/105 "2007-04-18T19:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Agreed, I hope it they lay off that. [/QUOTE] Me too. I’ve been fast-forwarding those scenes. If Nathan Fillion (or another actor I really like) wasn’t in this, I wouldn’t be watching at all. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/106 "2007-04-18T19:12:31Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Are you serious? You think she’s hot?? I think she’s disturbing to look at. She looks like a plastic doll that has been squeezed funny or something. Like her face is about to cave in or her head is about to fold in half or something. I can’t think of a single attractive thing about her, physically. [/QUOTE] Nah, that desription fits the freaky blonde who is now riding with NewMommy. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/107 "2007-04-18T19:13:41Z")
It fits both of them. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/108 "2007-04-18T19:14:13Z")
Eye candy is slim pickins on the show, and she has a nice enough body, though her face is unattractive (as is her inability to act). “Hot” is definitely relative (and a bit standard-lowering) in this case, I’ll admit… ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/109 "2007-04-18T20:44:25Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I can’t think of a single attractive thing about her, physically. [/QUOTE] I can think of [two](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0770521/pledrive4183_1.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Monroe%2C%20Mircea&seq=18), actually. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/110 "2007-04-18T20:55:23Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] I can think of two, actually. [/QUOTE] I don’t terribly concern myself with what ladies on TV look like, because Mrs. Plant won’t let me go out with them. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/111 "2007-04-18T21:35:41Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Especially since we’ve already established that it doesn’t matter if you’re first! Just don’t be last! [/QUOTE] We don’t know that at all. We know that was the rule for the Key West-Jupiter leg, which Mr. Bright described (and set off) as the “qualifying round.” It could well be vitally important to come in first in later legs. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122/112 "2007-04-18T22:04:36Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I grew up in Tucson and lived in Phoenix… for a total of 25 years… and I never heard anyone call it anything other than “I-10” or just “10”. The article “THE” at the front I haven’t heard from anyone but Californians. I live off of “75” for example, not “THE 75” which sounds weird to me. [/QUOTE] That’s just…weird. I watch the traffic announcements every morning while I get ready for work, and it’s always “the 101” or “the 202” or “the ramp onto the 17” or “traffic’s backed up on the 10” something, and I’ve lived here for 20-some years myself. I can’t recall any other way. And doing a quick google search on references, it’s pretty evenly matched in Arizona, so I’m certain I MUST have heard the other way many, many times, just as I figure you’ve heard “the” and never registered it. Like I said, weird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drive-new-fox-show/400122.md?page=5)