# Driver swerves to hit motorcyclist **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 18, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050 "2015-10-18T21:28:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/61 "2015-10-20T03:03:44Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I had drivers do stupid things around me all the time when I rode, but I don’t think I had anyone ever deliberately try to hurt me. I’ve posted the long version before so I’ll do the short one ----- a guy had his daughter run off with a biker. He had been in the Vets club all day drowning his sorrows and had just gotten in his car when I happened to be riding past. He floored it blocking the road and I had to lay it down or do an endo over him. I escaped basically unharmed (although the bike needed work I rode it away) and he admitted to the police and judge to trying to kill me. But it was the 70s and times were different and ------- I wish he had gotten at least a serious fine. But I survived and learned. Now-adays I can go years without a close call. But my trust for other riders and/or drivers is pretty much nil. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/62 "2015-10-20T03:30:42Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > The video does not show why the “accident” happened. That’s the legal problem. If a bee flies in your window and you swerve, that’s not a crime. Sure it is, if you swerve across a double-yellow line. “Failure to control vehicle,” I think they’d call it. If you swerve away from a bee and into _oncoming_ traffic, that would be all on you. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/63 "2015-10-20T03:42:38Z")
the driver of the car has been arrested and is charged with aggravated assault. [http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/driver-who-swerved-and-hit-a-motorcycle-charged-with-ag-1737478401](http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/driver-who-swerved-and-hit-a-motorcycle-charged-with-ag-1737478401) ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/64 "2015-10-20T03:59:49Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > the comments on that Jalopnik article are an utter shitshow. I can’t believe how many people are sitting there saying “well, they were _both_ assholes” as though crossing over a double yellow line is somehow just as bad as actively trying to kill two people. Oh, c’mon, they’re TOTALLY equivalent. If anything, the Mercury driver went easy on that churlish villain. It’s like last week, when a guy bumped RIGHT into me while passing me on the sidewalk. So I hacked him into tiny pieces with a cleaver. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/65 "2015-10-20T04:03:25Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Strange to think of _slow_ drivers as the ones likely to flip their shit and do something reckless. Why? People who drive the speed limit around here get constantly harassed by other drivers who are so poor at managing their time that it must always be ten-over. I can understand how the aggravation can build to the point where a person could snap and do something nasty qpq. Some drivers are very adept at expressing their hostility through road language (the vehicle equivalent of body language). It gets old pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/66 "2015-10-20T05:17:40Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > the driver of the car has been arrested and is charged with aggravated assault. > > [http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/driver-who-swerved-and-hit-a-motorcycle-charged-with-ag-1737478401](http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/driver-who-swerved-and-hit-a-motorcycle-charged-with-ag-1737478401) Looks like he worked long and hard to get there too. [William Crum sends Granbury motorcyclists to the ditch, not his first encounter with law enforcement](http://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20151019/NEWS/151019367) ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/67 "2015-10-20T15:19:11Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > 1%'ers riding in a pack will never have a single rider out in front with a passenger make any kind of pass on the open road. > > Two 1%'ers riding together won’t have one do something like that rider did unless he was way drunk or high. > > I have had a pickup truck on a busy city street deliberately knock me, on a bicycle over the curb with much force. > > I had a car at a stop sign pull out and drive over my bicycle. I jumped off quick enough to miss getting hit. That was with full eye contact as I crossed in front of him. > > My wife in the chase truck has blocked many people trying to kill bikers while coming up from the rear on single riders & packs. > > My bad wreck that gave me a steal upper right arm bone, the young female driver had to really work at hitting me. The cop said & wrote that in no way was I in any way responsible for the accident. ( > She did not do it on purpose but that did not save me from injury. > > What happened if you are curious. > > [http://dragon43rdr.blogspot.com/2008/10/adventure-terror-in-retrospect.html](http://dragon43rdr.blogspot.com/2008/10/adventure-terror-in-retrospect.html) Where the fuck do you live? Are you sure you’re not in a basic cable drama? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/68 "2015-10-20T16:51:12Z")
> [@cornflakes](#): > > Looks like he worked long and hard to get there too. > > [William Crum sends Granbury motorcyclists to the ditch, not his first encounter with law enforcement](http://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20151019/NEWS/151019367) Holy crap, why would they even allow that dick to drive a car? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/69 "2015-10-20T16:56:14Z")
> [@cornflakes](#): > > Looks like he worked long and hard to get there too. > > [William Crum sends Granbury motorcyclists to the ditch, not his first encounter with law enforcement](http://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20151019/NEWS/151019367) That dude IS the person your buddies warned you about. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/70 "2015-10-20T17:32:32Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Holy crap, why would they even allow that dick to drive a car? Unfortunately, there’s no Are you a dick? [_] YES [_] NO on the driver’s license application form. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/71 "2015-10-20T17:56:16Z")
It might be worth noting that the paper from one town over from Granbury is leading their headline with the first and last name of the accused. He may already have a reputation. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/72 "2015-10-20T17:59:08Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > I’ve posted the long version before so I’ll do the short one ----- a guy had his daughter run off with a biker. He had been in the Vets club all day drowning his sorrows and had just gotten in his car when I happened to be riding past. He floored it blocking the road and I had to lay it down or do an endo over him. I escaped basically unharmed (although the bike needed work I rode it away) and he admitted to the police and judge to trying to kill me. But it was the 70s and times were different and ------- I wish he had gotten at least a serious fine. But I survived and learned. Now-adays I can go years without a close call. But my trust for other riders and/or drivers is pretty much nil. Emphasis mine. How do you lay a bike down? And why would you do so? I ask because you will stop quicker using your brakes and keeping two rubber wheels on the road than you can by sliding sideways on metal. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/73 "2015-10-20T18:00:53Z")
Because sometimes its better to pull down your pants and slide on the ice than it is to remain upright and decapitate yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/74 "2015-10-20T18:41:45Z")
> [@Spiff](#): > > How do you lay a bike down? [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG1OT2g5leo) ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/75 "2015-10-20T18:49:32Z")
> [@cornflakes](#): > > Looks like he worked long and hard to get there too. > > [William Crum sends Granbury motorcyclists to the ditch, not his first encounter with law enforcement](http://www.yourglenrosetx.com/article/20151019/NEWS/151019367) I think this spiteful old fucker may finally be going down. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/76 "2015-10-20T19:26:59Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Where the fuck do you live? Are you sure you’re not in a basic cable drama? At that time I lived in Tulsa, Okla. ( 1944 to 1998 ) 54 of my 72 years not counting out of the area in the military. Are you sure your not calling me a liar? Did you read the blog entry? Wreck is a matter of record. You go contact the Tulsa Police department and prove that the wreck did not happen before you get to making insinuations. 10-30-1996, Yale Ave. near 23’d street, around 9 PM. Bawahahaha 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/77 "2015-10-20T20:13:29Z")
[quote=“Skywatcher, post:74, topic:735050”] [/QUOTE] maybe the camera makes it look different, but it would seem that guy was going way too fast for that road. He should have had time to stop safely. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/78 "2015-10-20T20:46:58Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > Are you sure your not calling me a liar? I was not calling you a liar. Your history of drivers trying to intentionally harm you is well outside the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/79 "2015-10-20T22:13:09Z")
No doubt in my mind this was an intentional act–no insurance protection for him! He pays his own defense costs and pays the judgment with no assistance from the insurance company. He is naked for the plaintiff wolves and I really hope he loses everything. If he’s really half as bad as he comes off in the video, he needs to be institutionalized for his own good, and for that of the community. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050/80 "2015-10-20T22:22:17Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > **No doubt in my mind this was an intentional act–no insurance protection for him!** He pays his own defense costs and pays the judgment with no assistance from the insurance company. He is naked for the plaintiff wolves and I really hope he loses everything. If he’s really half as bad as he comes off in the video, he needs to be institutionalized for his own good, and for that of the community. Unfortunately, that probably means nothing for the victims. ICU is damn expensive. If the rider has uninsured motorist coverage, that should cover it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driver-swerves-to-hit-motorcyclist/735050.md?page=5)