# Driverless shuttle in Las Vegas gets in fender bender within an hour

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326 "2017-11-11T15:02:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/21 "2017-11-12T06:22:41Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The future is most definitely driverless cars.
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> This early transition and development period will be a bit bumpy.
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> Thankfully this was just a fender bender. The programming team better patch this software PDQ and install a loud horn.
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> The horn should operate by software AND have an emergency button the shuttle’s staff can press.
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> A real driver would have been blasting the horn at that idiot in the truck. Long before they got backed into.
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> I’ve done it myself a couple times this year in parking lots. People backup without looking.

I think they should have a man with a red flag walking in front of them no faster than 4 mph to warn other road users. Interested in a job?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/22 "2017-11-12T06:34:35Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The driverless shuttle got into a fender fender bender the first day on the job. That is an accurate statement.
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> You are hired to run errands. First day on the job, you are sent to pick up supplies at a store across town. You come back with a dented company car. Your boss will be pissed. You can say it was the other guy’s fault and the police report supports your story. You won’t get fired.
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> You still got into an accident. Defensive driving is expected from all of us.

Defensive driving, like every other physical protection, doesn’t always work. The “you” in your example could come back with a dented car despite defensive driving, or even from an accident which took place while the car was parked.

Last year defensive driving turned “Nava badly hurt or dead in accident where dude exiting roundabout from central lane didn’t see her car and rammed straight into the driver’s door” into “Nava’s car in body shop for a month because the frontal bumper needed to be replaced and had to be ordered - and made to order (long live zero-stock policies); the rest of the frontal left corner also needed to be replaced”. The looks in the faces of the cop who was berating me for not doing exactly everything I had, in fact, done, and of his partner would have been priceless if I hadn’t been kind of irritated at being accused of not doing it instead of asked if I had done it (also still coming down from the adrenaline high).

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/23 "2017-11-13T00:19:05Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The driverless shuttle got into a fender fender bender the first day on the job. That is an accurate statement.

That is a technically true statement. Technically true statements are those which state a fact so wrenched out of context that it implies the opposite of the truth. Technically true statements should be avoided at all times if sense and understanding are the objects of communication.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/24 "2017-11-13T00:45:35Z")

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This thread is hilarious. A human-operated truck crashes into an autonomous car, and somehow people think it proves autonomous cars are dangerous.

How easy it is to forget that \>30,000 Americans are killed by human drivers each year…

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/25 "2017-11-13T03:01:40Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> I think they should have a man with a red flag walking in front of them no faster than 4 mph to warn other road users. Interested in a job?

On the contrary, reversing trucks should have a person walking behind them with a red flag to warn other road users – and the truck driver.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/driverless-shuttle-in-las-vegas-gets-in-fender-bender-within-an-hour/801326/26 "2017-11-13T03:20:32Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> The problems will get worse before they get better. I don’t know how these live road tests are allowed.

I agree! The driver of that semi truck should have been given a lot more training!

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