# DRM for coffee? Keurig 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 8, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309 "2015-08-08T11:58:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/1 "2015-08-08T11:58:10Z")
So, I was happy enough with my Keurig mini. My wife, who doesn’t drink coffee thought I needed a fancier one and bought me a new Keurig 2.0. It has been more convenient. It has a water container attached and it holds some in preheat and delivers coffee faster. All was well until I tried to use a non-Keurig K cup. It will not allow this. There is something in the ink on the lid of Keurig k cups that trips an infrared sensor that must be done before the coffee is made. looking around the net, I found the hack for this. Stick an Avery 5467 label to the left edge of your non-Keurig k cup and you are good to go. In the menu that pops up on the screen, select #4 for an 8 oz cup of your favorite coffee. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/2 "2015-08-08T13:11:51Z")
The patent of the standard k-cup has expired and now anyone can make them w/o royality payments (there were some alternatives before but they had to be dissimilar to the k-cups yet still comparable), so Keurig needed to come up with a different design, and they added a little more functionality and the barcode scanning seemingly to make the machine recognize and adjust brewing, but mainly to prevent copycats and to preserve the revenue stream and keeping the cost of a cup over $0.50 each. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/3 "2015-08-08T13:24:15Z")
[Keurig could be out of business soon](http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/keurigs-single-serve-coffee-empire-in-jeopardy-analysts-say/ar-BBlsBEj). It’s a common story of meteoric rise. The cups they invented will be their legacy. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/4 "2015-08-08T15:16:19Z")
Keurig has said they will re-introduce a reusable K-cup for consumers who want to buy their coffee in bulk: [Keurig gives in, adds reusable K-Cup for 2.0 machine](http://www.mnn.com/food/beverages/blogs/keurig-gives-in-adds-reusable-k-cup-for-20-machine#ixzz3iEkT5srL) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/5 "2015-08-08T22:10:46Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > [Keurig could be out of business soon](http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/keurigs-single-serve-coffee-empire-in-jeopardy-analysts-say/ar-BBlsBEj). It’s a common story of meteoric rise. The cups they invented will be their legacy. That article didn’t seem to suggest that the company was going to close, rather than its growth is slowing. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/6 "2015-08-08T23:35:06Z")
Rogers Coffee has made a ton of publicity by giving away “Freedom Clips” that clip in your Keurig and essentially trick the DRM. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/7 "2015-08-09T02:54:01Z")
Keurig totally pissed me off and lost my business when they pulled that DRM crap. Cuisinart now has my business for K-Cup coffee makers. Currently running the [SS-700](http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-SS-700-Single-Brewing-System/dp/B0034J6QIY) and loving it. (No, I didn’t spend 166 on it.) ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/8 "2015-08-09T09:15:37Z")
It all starts with hacking K-cups. Pretty soon, you’ll be illegally downloading music and video and from there it’s a very short leap to injecting heroin, rape, and murder. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/9 "2015-08-09T12:09:57Z")
And using generic ink to refill your printer’s cartridges rather than buying the manufacturer’s cartridges. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/10 "2015-08-09T12:15:49Z")
And not cooking your hamburger to the USDA’s specified safe temperature. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/11 "2015-08-09T12:42:28Z")
Do I call the USDA if my meat’s not hot enough after 4 hours? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/12 "2015-08-09T13:25:22Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > So, I was happy enough with my Keurig mini. My wife, who doesn’t drink coffee thought I needed a fancier one and bought me a new Keurig 2.0. It has been more convenient. It has a water container attached and it holds some in preheat and delivers coffee faster. All was well until I tried to use a non-Keurig K cup. It will not allow this. There is something in the ink on the lid of Keurig k cups that trips an infrared sensor that must be done before the coffee is made. > > looking around the net, I found the hack for this. Stick an Avery 5467 label to the left edge of your non-Keurig k cup and you are good to go. In the menu that pops up on the screen, select #4 for an 8 oz cup of your favorite coffee. What if I want a 12 oz cup of coffee? Seriously, the entire concept of brewing coffee one serving at a time is just alien to me. And not in a good _E.T./Starman/My Favorite Martian_ way; in the _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_ trendy hipster way.\* 'Cos, you know, pod people. Did you see what I did there? POD people? HAH! I slay me. 😃 \*those are BAD ways. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/13 "2015-08-09T19:00:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What if I want a 12 oz cup of coffee? … Make an 8 oz per normal, then cycle the handle without changing the cup; the machine will think it’s got a fresh cup in there. Push the [brew 4oz] button. Wait again. Drink an even larger cup of crappy coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/14 "2015-08-10T00:29:59Z")
> [@dba\_Fred](#): > > Do I call the USDA if my meat’s not hot enough after 4 hours? Nah. You only need to call if it _stays_ hot for _over_ 4 hours. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/15 "2015-08-10T00:50:19Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Nah. You only need to call if it _stays_ hot for _over_ 4 hours. If it is still hot after 4 hours, perhaps the AEC would be a better group to call. They can send a NEST team out. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/16 "2015-08-10T18:56:15Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Nah. You only need to call if it _stays_ hot for _over_ 4 hours. Otherwise known as fryapism. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/17 "2015-08-10T20:43:22Z")
I refused to by a Keurig 2.0 when our old one died. I know there are hacks to get around their attempt at propriety cups, but the whole attitude of it hacked me off. I got an [iCoffee](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=icoffee)single serve brewer that uses any K-style cup, or a resusable cup that I can put my own fresh ground coffee in. And I also found a grinder that can be set to fill the resuable cup, so I can go from bean to coffee one cup at a time. I likes it! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/18 "2015-08-10T20:44:01Z")
> [@](#): > > What if I want a 12 oz cup of coffee? The 2.0 comes with a carafe attachment and you can get carafe sized K cups. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/19 "2015-08-10T21:18:29Z")
Am I the only one left who makes 10 cups at a time, then reheats it in the microwave when I want a cup? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309/20 "2015-08-10T21:44:09Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Am I the only one left who makes 10 cups at a time, then reheats it in the microwave when I want a cup? No ☹ your not the only one, I am staying with a family who does that every morning, in brewing 12 cups and then shut off the heating element, so everyone except the first cup getter needs to nuke their coffee :smack: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drm-for-coffee-keurig-2-0/727309.md?page=2)