# Drowning Takes Too Long, Let's BBQ the Dog Instead **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 5, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513 "2004-08-05T21:08:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/21 "2004-08-06T19:16:43Z")
> [@nonpolar](#): > > I always get mad when I hear people(hypocrites) go ballistic at news that someone tortured dog,cat or other animal. > You can’t imagine in your wildest dreams what is going on in slaughter plants every second-things that are worst than torture. [Bawk!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=267727&highlight=chickens) ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/22 "2004-08-06T20:35:41Z")
OK, thought of something. Wasn’t it in TN a few months back that a dog was kicked to death one night? If so, I’m really starting to lose respect for that great state. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/23 "2004-08-06T20:53:01Z")
Yeah, as I mentioned above, some asshole picked up a small dog while his owner was taking the garbage to the dumpster, and drop kicked him, killing the poor dog. And that was no kid. Just some idiot who was bored and sadistic. Sadly it happened right down the road from me. Sadder the guy was gone before I could find him and punch him in the face multiple times. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/24 "2004-08-06T20:58:53Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Yeah, as I mentioned above, some asshole picked up a small dog while his owner was taking the garbage to the dumpster, and drop kicked him, killing the poor dog. And that was no kid. Just some idiot who was bored and sadistic. Sadly it happened right down the road from me. Sadder the guy was gone before I could find him and punch him in the face multiple times. You’re a good man. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/25 "2004-08-06T21:21:14Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Yeah, as I mentioned above, some asshole picked up a small dog while his owner was taking the garbage to the dumpster, and drop kicked him, killing the poor dog. And that was no kid. Just some idiot who was bored and sadistic. Sadly it happened right down the road from me. Sadder the guy was gone before I could find him and punch him in the face multiple times. Sorry, not sure how I missed your previous post. :smack: Hey, **World Eater** , wanna team up to get \*\*Max \*\* on the ballot? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/26 "2004-08-06T21:28:25Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Sorry, not sure how I missed your previous post. :smack: > > Hey, **World Eater** , wanna team up to get \*\*Max \*\* on the ballot? 😃 As long as he hooks us up with some sweetheart deals. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/27 "2004-08-06T22:28:30Z")
> [@Machetero](#): > > it is. and this time, it looks like an actual case has been pitted for a change. Thank you for another tasteless comment. Animal abuse is just that, it doesn’t matter if you favor the animal involved or not. I’m glad you’re devoted to ensuring that the number of horse’s asses exceeds the number of horses. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/28 "2004-08-06T22:45:13Z")
> [@danceswithcats](#): > > > [@Machetero](#): > > > > it is. and this time, it looks like an actual case has been pitted for a change. > > Thank you for another tasteless comment. Animal abuse is just that, it doesn’t matter if you favor the animal involved or not. I’m glad you’re devoted to ensuring that the number of horse’s asses exceeds the number of horses. Ah, yes, the one who judges cases of animal abuse by whether or not the animal in question was a “sucky” pet or not. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/29 "2004-08-07T03:11:36Z")
> [@danceswithcats](#): > > Thank you for another tasteless comment. Animal abuse is just that, it doesn’t matter if you favor the animal involved or not. I’m glad you’re devoted to ensuring that the number of horse’s asses exceeds the number of horses. What’s tasteless that I pointed that morons like you and Jeff Olsen don’t know your asses from holes in the ground when it comes to animal cruelty or when an action performed against animal is indicative of serious psychological problems? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/30 "2004-08-07T04:07:56Z")
So now you’re an expert on both animal abuse _and_ psychological problems? ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/31 "2004-08-07T04:18:04Z")
> [@Siddhartha Vicious](#): > > Yeesh. > > Isn’t animal torture how most serial killers get their start? Yes, it is. These boys need to be locked up in a psych ward for several months of evaluation. ---
**Author:** ![Feztickle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5a626/32.png) [@Feztickle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feztickle)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/32 "2004-08-07T05:20:08Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > Yes, it is. > > These boys need to be locked up in a psych ward for several months of evaluation. And by “months” I assume you mean “lifetimes.” ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/33 "2004-08-08T00:32:07Z")
It is a part of the “triad” or 3 most common characteristics displayed among serial killers as kids -Torturing animals -Pyromania -Wetting the bed (although I think they mean in a case where it occurs when they have matured enough physically, where this should not happen, such as adolescence.) ☹ ---
**Author:** ![nonpolar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@nonpolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonpolar)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/34 "2004-08-08T07:11:22Z")
> [@pool](#): > > It is a part of the “triad” or 3 most common characteristics displayed among serial killers as kids > > -Torturing animals > > -Pyromania > > -Wetting the bed (although I think they mean in a case where it occurs when they have matured enough physically, where this should not happen, such as adolescence.) > ☹ Are you serious? :eek: When I was young and “stupid” I did all those things. I tortured mostly insects , frogs and fishes not mammals or birds,anyway, after all those years I still remember what I did vividly.(Karma will come to me) ☹ And I LOVE playing with fire. Wetting in bed:Yes . ---
**Author:** ![P\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@P\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P_T)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/35 "2004-08-08T07:27:52Z")
That is kinda scary. I think most boys have played with their share of insects, frogs, etc. as well as lighting up a few books of matches just for the hell of it. I’m surprised to hear about the bedwetting though, I had never heard that before. ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/36 "2004-08-08T07:55:06Z")
> [@nonpolar](#): > > Are you serious? :eek: > When I was young and “stupid” I did all those things. > I tortured mostly insects , frogs and fishes not mammals or birds,anyway, after all those years I still remember what I did vividly.(Karma will come to me) ☹ > And I LOVE playing with fire. > Wetting in bed:Yes . It’s not a tried and true thing. (As an example.) Out of 50 serial killers, 35 did all those things. Out of 50 serial killers, 50 did at least one of those things. Out of the 50 million people who have done all three, only .0001% are serial killers. Out of the 500 million people who have done atleast one, only .000000001% are serial killers. That’s how that came about, it doesn’t mean it is A thus B thing. It just generally fits the description. Those three things plus things like sociopathy and such really build a solid case for someone having the _potential_ to become a serial killer. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513/37 "2004-08-09T19:30:50Z")
> [@nonpolar](#): > > I always get mad when I hear people(hypocrites) go ballistic at news that someone tortured dog,cat or other animal. > You can’t imagine in your wildest dreams what is going on in slaughter plants every second-things that are worst than torture. No, you’re mistaken. It isn’t worse than torture. While some animals do suffer because of failure to acheive a fast kill, it doesn’t last too long. Slaughterhouses are designed to kill and dismember animals for food as quickly and efficiently as it is possible to do it. They get no kicks from causing the suffering of animals. very different thing, no matter how offended you are by it. On the other hand, the actual conditions under which many, if not most, of th animals raised for food in this country LIVE…now THAT is torture. Don’t get all caught up in your own distaste for blood and death. That is brief. If you care about the suffering of food animals, address their living conditions, not their dying conditions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drowning-takes-too-long-lets-bbq-the-dog-instead/258513.md?page=1)