# Drudge: Exit polls show easy Obama win in NC **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 6, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352 "2008-05-06T21:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/1 "2008-05-06T21:54:20Z")
[www.drudgereport.com](http://www.drudgereport.com) That’s surprising. I thought Hillary would make a run at him in NC… ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/2 "2008-05-06T21:58:16Z")
Polls close in IN in 3 minutes. Obama by 3\* \*prediction ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/3 "2008-05-06T22:02:32Z")
I thought they still had an hour in Indiana. Anyhow, [Huffington Post](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) has Clinton +5 in Indiana, and Obama +12 in NC. Given the way these early exit polls tend to overestimate Obama, I’ll say Clinton +10 in Indiana, and Obama +7 in NC. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/4 "2008-05-06T22:03:25Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Polls close in IN in 3 minutes. Obama by 3\* [/QUOTE] Polls in the area of the state on Central time don’t close for an hour. I doubt they’ll release any results till then. I’m sure President Kerry will be glad to hear about the exit polls though. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/5 "2008-05-06T22:05:13Z")
I’ve had the feeling that Clinton wasn’t really going to close the gap in NC - not as much as the latest polls had shown, anyway. We’ll see. I’m expecting her to win Indiana, subjecting us to another month of this stuff at least. It occurred to me today that in social studies textbooks, this will probably sound like a very interesting couple of months in political history. I wonder how many of us will be willing to admit to our kids and grandkids that we were actually bored silly and couldn’t wait for the damn thing to end. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/6 "2008-05-06T22:19:50Z")
Drudge is a fan of leaking/releasing news and exit poll results that raise Obama expectations, only to draw back later in the evening. It’s happened a few times now. That said: NC Obama by 12, Indiana Clin-ton by 10. She will have “beaten” “expectations” once again, and around and around we go… ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/7 "2008-05-06T22:24:22Z")
[QUOTE=stolichnaya] Drudge is a fan of leaking/releasing news and exit poll results that raise Obama expectations, only to draw back later in the evening. It’s happened a few times now. That said: NC Obama by 12, Indiana Clin-ton by 10. She will have “beaten” “expectations” once again, and around and around we go… [/QUOTE] I know the media likes a good fight, yadda, yadda, but I’m going to be mighty annoyed that the “beats expectations line” is going to take hold for Clinton (I assume) when it was more-or-less ignored when Obama beat expectations in Pennsylvania, where the storyline was “a win is a win.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/8 "2008-05-06T22:32:28Z")
Can anyone explain why anything Drudge posts, either way, should be taken seriously, discussed here, or even _read_? Are you all so desperate for news that you’ll even read fiction? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/9 "2008-05-06T22:34:22Z")
Of course, if Clinton wins Indiana by 5, and Obama wins NC by 6, that would total 11: Voila: DOUBLE DIGIT WIN FOR CLINTON! ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/10 "2008-05-06T22:37:30Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Can anyone explain why anything Drudge posts, either way, should be taken seriously, discussed here, or even _read_? Are you all so desperate for news that you’ll even read fiction? [/QUOTE] It is nice to agree with you for once 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/11 "2008-05-06T22:49:13Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Can anyone explain why anything Drudge posts, either way, should be taken seriously, discussed here, or even _read_? Are you all so desperate for news that you’ll even read fiction? [/QUOTE] These are exit polls from the news sources. Drudge didn’t just invent them.. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/12 "2008-05-06T22:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=jtgain] These are exit polls from the news sources. Drudge didn’t just invent them.. [/QUOTE] So, why not link to the original news sources instead of Drudge? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/13 "2008-05-06T22:54:44Z")
I was walking out of a polling place at about 6:00 tonight, when a CNN guy stopped me and asked me if I wanted to do an exit poll. “I voted on Saturday,” I answered; “I just teach here.” They dropped me like a cold potato. I wonder how NC’s vast early voting will change things? When I voted on Saturday, there was the longest line I have ever seen at a polling place in my state; took me about 20 minutes to cast my vote (usually it takes me about 3). I suspect a lot of folks did the same across the state. I also ran a quickie poll with my second-graders today; during writing workshop, I passed out slips of paper and let them write their choice of McCain, Obama, or Clinton on it. The results: John McCain: 1 Hillary Clinton: 2 Barack Obama: 14. Every time I put another hash mark by Obama’s name, the class broke out in peals of delighted laughter. It was pretty fun. Alas that these kids don’t get to vote for real! Daniel ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/14 "2008-05-06T22:58:02Z")
When I was in 5th grade, we had a similar mock election. Ross Perot won decisively, IIRC. So… ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/15 "2008-05-06T22:59:41Z")
CNN is reporting Indiana results (4% of precincts reporting) with Clinton 58% and Obama 42%. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/16 "2008-05-06T23:00:47Z")
Ding Dong, the witch is… …not dead! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/17 "2008-05-06T23:14:27Z")
I think we’re seeing the Limbaugh effect in Indiana. Republicans crossing over to fuck Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/18 "2008-05-06T23:18:25Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] CNN is reporting Indiana results (4% of precincts reporting) with Clinton 58% and Obama 42%. [/QUOTE] Until Marion and Lake county start reporting, I’m not paying too much attention to the early reporting. Indianapolis and Gary (not counting suburbs) have around 15% of the state population between them. No, I don’t think they’ll shift the results by 10% or anything but they’re certainly worth waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/19 "2008-05-06T23:22:43Z")
[QUOTE=Jophiel] Until Marion and Lake county start reporting, I’m not paying too much attention to the early reporting. Indianapolis and Gary (not counting suburbs) have around 15% of the state population between them. No, I don’t think they’ll shift the results by 10% or anything but they’re certainly worth waiting for. [/QUOTE] I agree, but the thread is about early reports. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352/20 "2008-05-06T23:24:53Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I think we’re seeing the Limbaugh effect in Indiana. Republicans crossing over to fuck Obama. [/QUOTE] According to [538.com](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/) , among those who voted for Hillary, 7% don’t want her to win the nomination. We’ll see if that number holds, but it does seem significant. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drudge-exit-polls-show-easy-obama-win-in-nc/448352.md?page=2)