# Druggie imitates ISIS during violence in OK workplace. (RO) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642 "2014-09-26T15:28:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/1 "2014-09-26T15:28:48Z")
(Apologies for the autoplaying news reports.) Moore, Oklahoma: [30-year-old Alton Nolen is accused of stabbing two women](http://newsok.com/moore-incident-leaves-one-dead-one-stabbed-one-shot/article/5345599), [one of whom had been beheaded](http://newsok.com/woman-in-moore-stabbing-rampage-at-business-was-beheaded-sources-report/article/5345835). > [@](#): > > Nolen was shot by an off-duty Oklahoma County reserve deputy who is employed by [Vaughan Foods, Inc.], police said. Why this is in the Pit: > [@](#): > > According to the state corrections department, Nolen was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses, assault and battery on a police officer and escape from detention. He was released from prison in March 2013. Methinks the release was a bit premature. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/2 "2014-09-26T15:57:58Z")
Just when I thought, lets have a vacation in the US… should I bring my own gun or can I pick one up in Wal-Mart? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/3 "2014-09-26T16:05:32Z")
“Druggie” ? The 1980s called… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/4 "2014-09-26T16:09:45Z")
You can pick up shotguns in Walmart. And ammo. I’ve said before that, in the event of a zombie apocalypse, that’s where I’m heading first. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/5 "2014-09-26T16:10:03Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > “Druggie” ? > > The 1980s called… He “was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses”. What would you call him? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/6 "2014-09-26T16:21:47Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > He “was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses”. What would you call him? A convicted felon? ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/7 "2014-09-26T16:30:47Z")
So ISIS owns the copyright to beheading now, does it? Incidentally, I did not view the videos, but nothing in the text of either the linked stories mentioned any beheading, just the headline. Beheading someone is hugely more difficult than stabbing them. Did any such thing really happen? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/8 "2014-09-26T16:38:06Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Incidentally, I did not view the videos, but nothing in the text of either the linked stories mentioned any beheading, just the headline. Beheading someone is hugely more difficult than stabbing them. Did any such thing really happen? Second link is now updated with “10:15 a.m. At a press conference, Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis confirmed Colleen Hufford’s head was severed in the attack.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/9 "2014-09-26T16:43:09Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > So ISIS owns the copyright to beheading now, does it? Just found this: [The FBI is now looking into Nolen’s background after his former co-workers said he tried to convert them to Islam after recently converting himself.](http://wreg.com/2014/09/26/oklahoma-beheading-suspect-reportedly-tried-to-convert-others-to-islam-before-attack/) ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/10 "2014-09-26T16:55:03Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > He “was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses”. What would you call him? A lot of fun. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/11 "2014-09-26T17:00:38Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > A lot of fun. Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/12 "2014-09-26T17:03:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > You can pick up shotguns in Walmart. And ammo. I’ve said before that, in the event of a zombie apocalypse, that’s where I’m heading first. Unfortunately, if the zombies don’t get you, the [cops will](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/25/ohio-wal-mart-surveillance-video-shows-police-shooting-and-killing-john-crawford-iii/). ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/13 "2014-09-26T17:07:14Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > You can pick up shotguns in Walmart. And ammo. I’ve said before that, in the event of a zombie apocalypse, that’s where I’m heading first. Good to know. Do I need ID or stuff like that or will cash do fine? Never know, might want an all-out US experience with Police shootout and stuff like that… in a pinch I can work with a machete as well, of cos. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/14 "2014-09-26T17:16:16Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Unfortunately, if the zombies don’t get you, the [cops will](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/25/ohio-wal-mart-surveillance-video-shows-police-shooting-and-killing-john-crawford-iii/). Jeppers, a real gun… a toy gun now… that’s just a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/15 "2014-09-26T17:21:57Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > He “was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses”. What would you call him? That was over three years ago. Since he became religious, he’s really turned his life around. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/16 "2014-09-26T17:58:56Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Unfortunately, if the zombies don’t get you, the [cops will](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/25/ohio-wal-mart-surveillance-video-shows-police-shooting-and-killing-john-crawford-iii/). From your link: > [@](#): > > It turns out it was an air rifle that can shoot BBs or fire pellets. What an awkward sentence! Does the gun “shoot BBs or pellets” or does it “shoot BBs or pellets of fire”? Cause I’d like to buy a gun that shoots flaming pellets. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/17 "2014-09-26T18:07:05Z")
This may have been one of those “lone wolf” attacks that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes and bashed for using “druggie”? Whatever. This place is messed up. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/18 "2014-09-26T18:24:32Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > This place is messed up. It’s all the druggies. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/19 "2014-09-26T18:28:06Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > This may have been one of those “lone wolf” attacks that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes and bashed for using “druggie”? > > Whatever. This place is messed up. Your evidence of an ISIS lone wolf consists of 1) he beheaded someone, and 2) some coworkers said he’s Muslin. Not too convincing at this point. What kind of response were you hoping for? Time to start rounding up Muslims? Time to panic? Thanks for the warning, **Skywatcher** , I’ll beware of lunatics carrying large knives? ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/20 "2014-09-26T18:28:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > This may have been one of those “lone wolf” attacks that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes and bashed for using “druggie”? > > Whatever. This place is messed up. What do you want? Sometimes you can only joke. “Druggie” is just a poor choice of word. He sounds mentally ill and recently converted to Islam. Those two facts seem more relevant in driving his actions than old drug charges. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642.md?page=2)