# Druggie imitates ISIS during violence in OK workplace. (RO)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642 "2014-09-26T15:28:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/21 "2014-09-26T18:59:18Z")

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So far, the Muslim thing seems to a soundbite from a co-worker. It’s all over the local news Facebook feeds, tho. KFOR, KOCO, KWTV are some of the local TV stations. Too much bother to link to the Facebook stuff from my tablet, but they should be easy enough to find.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/22 "2014-09-26T19:15:18Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Whatever. This place is messed up.

Coming from the guy that begged for money from members here in order keep his bunnies air-conditioned (so he wouldn’t have to dip into his own savings to help them).

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/23 "2014-09-26T19:20:55Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> …some coworkers said he’s Muslin.

Better than being double-knit polyester.

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/24 "2014-09-26T19:27:10Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Coming from the guy that begged for money from members here in order keep his bunnies air-conditioned (so he wouldn’t have to dip into his own savings to help them).

🆒

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/25 "2014-09-26T19:43:05Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Coming from the guy that begged for money from members here in order keep his bunnies air-conditioned (so he wouldn’t have to dip into his own savings to help them).

Give the guy a break. He has DOUBLE depression, doncha know!

Did we ever find out what that is?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/26 "2014-09-26T19:49:01Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> This may have been one of those “lone wolf” attacks that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes and bashed for using “druggie”?
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> Whatever. This place is messed up.

What were we warned about? Do you think this guy may actually be linked to ISIS in some way, or (which I think is more likely) he’s just some guy who is out of his mind.

I’m not getting the hate for “druggie”, but maybe I’m just not up with the latest hipster slang…

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/27 "2014-09-26T20:11:27Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Better than being double-knit polyester.

This may have been one of those fashion faux pas that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes?

Whatever. This place is messed up.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/28 "2014-09-26T20:12:38Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> He sounds mentally ill and recently converted to Islam. Those two facts seem more relevant in driving his actions than old drug charges.

If you think converting to Islam is more likely to drive a person to violence than drugs, then you either have encountered the wrong brand of Islam or the right kind of drugs.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/29 "2014-09-26T21:10:41Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Give the guy a break. He has DOUBLE depression, doncha know!
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> Did we ever find out what that is?

I _think_ that’s where it’s in both lungs, like double pneumonia. Or “Boogie Woogie Flu.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/30 "2014-09-26T21:12:12Z")

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If an isis Lone Wolf’s duty is to for kill one American before being shot, then they’re going to have to send a _lot_ of Lone Wolves!  
( Remember Airheads? The Lone Rangers?? )

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/31 "2014-09-26T21:16:42Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Give the guy a break. He has DOUBLE depression, doncha know!
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> Did we ever find out what that is?

It sounds like one of [Bob Ducca’s ailments](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHIegpSmIyw). No, not that\*\* Bob Ducca\*\*.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/32 "2014-09-26T21:21:39Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Asshole.

Ah, poor baby can’t take a joke. Is it the druggies your on?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/33 "2014-09-26T21:28:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m not getting the hate for “druggie”, but maybe I’m just not up with the latest hipster slang…

A hophead like you, no wonder you’re confused.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/34 "2014-09-26T21:33:35Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> This may have been one of those “lone wolf” attacks that we were warned about a few days ago and all I get are jokes and bashed for using “druggie”?

From [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t1):

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> Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was terminated from his job at Vaughan Foods processing plant just before the rampage Thursday afternoon in Moore, Oklahoma, just outside Oklahoma City, said Sgt. Jeremy Lewis of the Moore Police Department.

Sounds like simple (and, sadly, not unusual) workplace violence to me. What evidence do you have that Nolen is an ISIS lone wolf?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/35 "2014-09-26T21:34:52Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Sounds like simple (and, sadly, not unusual) workplace violence to me. What evidence do you have that Nolen is an ISIS lone wolf?

Are you saying this thread belongs in the Workplace Griping thread? 😉

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/36 "2014-09-26T21:37:04Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Ah, poor baby can’t take a joke. Is it the druggies your on?

He snorted too many marijuanas.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/37 "2014-09-26T21:42:30Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> A hophead like you, no wonder you’re confused.

Don’t knock it if you [haven’t tried it!](http://www.anchordistilling.com/spirits/hophead-vodka)

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/38 "2014-09-26T21:50:07Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If you think converting to Islam is more likely to drive a person to violence than drugs, then you either have encountered the wrong brand of Islam or the right kind of drugs.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Both are true.

Beheadings seem to be far more “in” with a certain brand of Islam than they are with any kind of drugs. On top of this, recent converts to anything (not necessarily religion) often show a particularly large amount of zeal.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/39 "2014-09-26T23:50:23Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> From [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t1):
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> Sounds like simple (and, sadly, not unusual) workplace violence to me. What evidence do you have that Nolen is an ISIS lone wolf?

If it’s on CNN, it must be true. :smack:

There was another workplace shooting earlier this week in Alabama, by a white Christian man who killed two women but didn’t behead anyone. No mention whatsoever was made of his religion.

Heck, that crazy Canadian white guy from years back who beheaded a Greyhound passenger was only profiled as a crazy white guy, not a religious freak. And on and on it goes, this media thing of ours…

I’m with **Bozuit** in that beheading seems to be “in” these days, because it’s shocking and disturbing and very strong way to get people’s attention. That’s why ISIS does it, and that’s why some crazy nutjob people do it. But just because they do the same things doesn’t mean there should be any correlation drawn between those two groups of people, except that they’re both major assholes.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/druggie-imitates-isis-during-violence-in-ok-workplace-ro/699642/40 "2014-09-27T00:01:48Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> He snorted too many marijuanas.

The pots…not even once.

When I read the initial reports, I was more concerned at the potential response from the “gun rights” people. I figured the guy was just a run-of-the-mill aggressive nut rather than a religious extremist.

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