# drum fish answer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [October 13, 2000, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777 "2000-10-13T12:17:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![sally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@sally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sally)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/1 "2000-10-13T12:17:58Z")

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yes, Jill, it is sad that fatdrag0n is fishing in a lake in missouri. it’s just too bad that people actually have to live in the “fly-over zone,” isn’t it? the government should just pave over the whole thing and make it a parking lot for disney world, dammit. I sure wish I could live on the coast and wear shoes everyday and have cable tv and a cell phone! that would be the life, I would have carte blanche to be a snooty twit!

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**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/2 "2000-10-13T12:36:52Z")

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Hate to tell you this, **sally** , since you’ve obviously got your mad hat on, but New Mexico is not exactly coastal. The reference to a river might have thrown you, but NM is also a “fly-over.” Now don’t you feel silly?

By the way, it’s not nice to tease. Very few of us, even those of us in gorgeous cosmopolitan new York City, can afford to wear shoes _every day_.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/3 "2000-10-13T13:02:01Z")

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If you wanna figure out what Sally’s talking about, the column is, at the moment, the current one, and can be found [here](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdrumfish.html).

'Course, I’ve read the column, and I’m STILL not sure what she’s talking about…Jill seemed perfectly polite to me.

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**Author:** ![justwannano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ab992/32.png) [@justwannano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justwannano)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/4 "2000-10-13T23:52:16Z")

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Gee Jill Here I am in IOWA,home of the drum also bass crappie catfish sturgeon walleye musky bluegill and even the lowly ,to quote some, carp, and I didn’t even know they had rivers in New Mexico.Most of the rivers in the west we call cricks here in Iowa.Oh Yeah they stock trout in NE Iowa.

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2000, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/5 "2000-10-14T01:37:30Z")

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When I lived in **Oklahoma** , I took a fabulous canoe trip in **Missouri**. Those are both beautiful states in their own rights (though some of the current residents seem to lack a sense of humor, for some reason). But I tell ya, nothing beats fly fishing in New Mexico. Sorry.

- Jill  
(Disney World? Cell phones? Cable TV? What the …?)

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**Author:** ![cry2cin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@cry2cin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cry2cin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2000, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/6 "2000-10-14T02:38:24Z")

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And what about paddlefish? Can they be caught on the east and left coast? I think not. They’re protected, but one can fish them upwards of dams in the midwest. You have to use a treble hook and snag ‘em. No bait involved. Broil them like shark, except without the greasy layer. Good fishin’!

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**Author:** ![sally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@sally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sally)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2000, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/7 "2000-10-14T11:40:17Z")

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I didn’t say new mexico was on the coast, but thanks for assuming that’s where I thought it was. surprisingly enough, living in this backwater state, I actually know a bit about geography. just about blew your mind there, didn’t I?

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Fortune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Commander\_Fortune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commander_Fortune)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2000, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/8 "2000-10-14T11:47:57Z")

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Way to make an entrance and establish a name for yourself in our little piece of the net…you must truly be a delightful person to be around.

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2000, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/9 "2000-10-14T14:32:05Z")

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And anyway, I wasn’t making fun of Missouri - I was making fun of lake anglers, as a fly fisher-uh-person. Even though I’m a closet bait user, too.  
Jill  
ps - “Closet bait user.” That sounds prurient.  
pps - Michigan. Now there’s a state that sucks.

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**Author:** ![Avumede](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/avumede/32/7235_2.png) [@Avumede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avumede)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2000, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/10 "2000-10-16T16:18:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tengu \*  
> 'Course, I’ve read the column, and I’m STILL not sure what she’s talking about…Jill seemed perfectly polite to me.

I dunno, I felt Jill’s column was a bit insulting. I mean to call fishing in the Ozarks “depressing” is a bit much. The Ozarks are perfect for that sort of thing. I mean, if the guy with the questions had said he was fishing in Sauget, then that would be a different story. 🙂

Although I’m not exactly sure why Sally is mentioning coasters at all, I agree with her that people in general should respect the Midwest a bit more - we on this board especially; after all, that is where the great Cecil chooses to live, right?

Also, and to add to the column, Sheepheads are well known to be delicious. They have the flavor of shellfish, and I see them selling all the time in place where people know their fish.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/11 "2000-10-17T21:46:18Z")

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sally said:

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> I didn’t say new mexico was on the coast, but thanks for assuming that’s where I thought it was.

Originally, sally said:

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> yes, **Jill** , it is sad that fatdrag0n is fishing in a lake in missouri. it’s just too bad that people actually have to live in the “fly-over zone,” isn’t it? the government should just pave over the whole thing and make it a parking lot for disney world, dammit. **I sure wish I could live on the coast** and wear shoes everyday and have cable tv and a cell phone! that would be the life, I would have carte blanche to be a snooty twit!

The above statement implies that you think that Jill lives on the coast, with specific references to disney world (that would actually be Florida, to anyone who thought California). Now Jill’s column only mentions New Mexico. The rest of us are scratching our heads as to why you mention the coasts. Or Disney World. Or cell phones and shoes and cable TV.

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/12 "2000-10-18T02:12:51Z")

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[[The rest of us are scratching our heads as to why you mention the coasts. Or Disney World. Or cell phones and shoes and cable TV.]]

Not to mention the “snooty twit” part.

Jill  
F.I.T.

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**Author:** ![Rocket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Rocket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocket)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2000, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/13 "2000-10-19T16:52:27Z")

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This doesn’t work so well in print, but, oh well, here it is anyway.

Question: Why do they call it Missouri (Misery)?  
Answer: Because Sally lives there.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2000, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/14 "2000-10-19T20:04:40Z")

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And why does sally have a homepage at [sexsex.com](http://sexsex.com) if she’s NOT going to put porn on it? Seems like a copout to me.

Have a look at her homepage, if you can stand it, and youll understand a little more.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/15 "2000-10-26T20:55:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rocket \*  
> Question: Why do they call it Missouri (Misery)?

You ain’t from aroun’ heah, are ya? It’s Miz-oo-ruh.

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**Author:** ![Avumede](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/avumede/32/7235_2.png) [@Avumede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avumede)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2000, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drum-fish-answer/36777/16 "2000-10-27T15:55:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Colibri \*  
> And why does sally have a homepage at [sexsex.com](http://sexsex.com) if she’s NOT going to put porn on it? Seems like a copout to me.

Maybe she’s a lazy German satanist.
