# Drunk 18 yr guy pees on 11 yr old girl while on a JetBlue flight.

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**Created:** [August 12, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458 "2011-08-12T15:01:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/21 "2011-08-12T22:40:16Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> It was a domestic flight? I would have guessed incontinental.

Urine trouble.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/22 "2011-08-12T23:23:40Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Now, as to how this 18 year old lad got totally plastered on the plane is another question.

One of the articles said that he drank before boarding. BTW, the articles mention charging him with indecent exposure, but why not charge him with public drunkenness, and/or underage drinking?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/23 "2011-08-13T00:31:25Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> One of the articles said that he drank before boarding. BTW, the articles mention charging him with indecent exposure, but why not charge him with public drunkenness, and/or underage drinking?

You would think the obvious charge would be assault.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/24 "2011-08-13T03:39:34Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> It was a domestic flight? I would have guessed incontinental.

> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> They should be called YellowJet now.

Nope, Incontinental got bought by Urinited.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/25 "2011-08-13T06:10:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> According to [another article](http://espn.go.com/olympics/skiing/story/_/id/6856362/us-skier-robert-sandy-vietze-dismissed-report-urinating-passenger), he had 5 or 6 beers and 2 rums and cokes. Lightweight. The worst I’ve done on more alcohol than that is lose coordination or say stupid stuff.[URL=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=14132710](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=14132710)”]

After about 1.5 drinks, I start to sing and say silly stuff. I’ve never developed much of a tolerance for alcohol.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/26 "2011-08-13T07:46:23Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> They should be called YellowJet now.
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> According to [another article](http://espn.go.com/olympics/skiing/story/_/id/6856362/us-skier-robert-sandy-vietze-dismissed-report-urinating-passenger), he had 5 or 6 beers and 2 rums and cokes. Lightweight. The worst I’ve done on more alcohol than that is lose coordination or say stupid stuff.

Or post on the Dope 🙂

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/28 "2011-08-13T11:28:04Z")

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Erm, the headline on that second [link](http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/man_who_peed_ski_girl_team_jetblue_EIhJUSOWaE404JiqsM6GPJ?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFBrianCoz)?

Peeing on one girl is bad enough, but tossing off an entire ski team? :eek:

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/29 "2011-08-13T11:33:59Z")

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> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#):
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> And it [seems to have spread to the Summer Olympic](http://www.news.com.au/national/swimmer-nick-darcy-to-pay-135000-in-damages-for-king-hit-to-simon-cowley/story-e6frfkvr-1226096725718) athletes too.

This athlete’s a [riot](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3747365/Olympics-girl-is-London-riot-yob.html) too.

ETA: @Colophon, can’t stop laughing

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/30 "2011-08-13T13:14:15Z")

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> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#):
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> And it [seems to have spread to the Summer Olympic](http://www.news.com.au/national/swimmer-nick-darcy-to-pay-135000-in-damages-for-king-hit-to-simon-cowley/story-e6frfkvr-1226096725718) athletes too.

At first, I read that as “Simon Cowell” and wondered what the big deal was! 😃

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**Author:** ![StuffLikeThatThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@StuffLikeThatThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StuffLikeThatThere)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/31 "2011-08-13T13:57:39Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> It’s not clear from the story if he peed on her on purpose because he’s a perv, or if he was so drunk/asleep that he thought he was in the biffy and peeing.

Either way, I’ll bet his mother is SO proud.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/32 "2011-08-13T14:06:41Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> According to [another article](http://espn.go.com/olympics/skiing/story/_/id/6856362/us-skier-robert-sandy-vietze-dismissed-report-urinating-passenger), he had 5 or 6 beers and 2 rums and cokes. Lightweight.

I agree, what a pussy. Hell with that amount I’m just starting my buzz.

> [@Ferret Herder](#):
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> At first, I read that as “Simon Cowell” and wondered what the big deal was!

Same here.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/33 "2011-08-13T14:13:09Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> I wonder if Hallmark makes a card for that.

[SIZE=“5”]Could not avoid  
The need to void.  
Now I’m real sorry  
Your Dad’s annoyed.

Welcome home !!![/SIZE]

😃

Seriously? We’ve had a lot of threads in here about incidents on airplanes. Without being smarmy or quoting Samuel L. Jackson, it’s accurate to say that dealing with a large group of people crammed into an extremely confined space with zero chance of escape for a defined period of time is, well, a bitch.

I do not envy flight crews. Do they keep serving the guy, or cut him off- which may anger him- and risk having a drunk and enraged person trapped a few feet from other passengers and crew?

Tough calls all around, I say. It’d have been uglier yet if Dad did what I would have done, what most parents would have done. Which is engage in physical violence. I do believe that Drunk Guy had zero idea of the age or gender of the urinal he happened to be making use of. He was drunk, it was Time To Go. Doesn’t excuse it, but to me ( and I have a daughter as well as a son ) it removes entirely the layer of this that addresses man exposing self to 11 year old child of either gender.

Again, not condoning it but putting it in the proper context. He very likely didn’t hold his piss for hours, then get up and very coldly and carefully walk the aisles until he found his underage female victim.

Bad deal all around. The chest pains part only adds yet another bizarre bit, but I fly a fuckload and have been on a few flights where someone needed medical attention. Never been rerouted because of a medical emergency.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/34 "2011-08-13T14:15:09Z")

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\*\* Bolding mine\*\*

> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> After about 1.5 drinks, I **start to sing** and say silly stuff. I’ve never developed much of a tolerance for alcohol.

Ethel Merman or The Clash ? Inquiring minds must know !!!

😛

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/35 "2011-08-13T15:21:39Z")

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Rocky Horror or the Beatles, mostly.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/36 "2011-08-13T16:24:07Z")

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Or a combination thereof?

I Wanna Hold Your Glam

Sgt. Frankie’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

Mean Meatloaf Mustard

😃

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/37 "2011-08-13T16:52:14Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> It’s not clear from the story if he peed on her on purpose because he’s a perv, or if he was so drunk/asleep that he thought he was in the biffy and peeing.

What difference does it make? Since when is being drunk an excuse for anything?

This:

> [@](#):
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> The leaky loser had expressed no remorse Thursday outside his family’s palatial Vermont home, where he ignored questions about the incident and showed no interest in apologizing to his victim.

Removes any possible shred of sympathy it might have been possible to feel for him. This kid is a spoiled little douchebag of the highest order. He should have been thrown off that plane in mid-flight.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/38 "2011-08-13T16:56:30Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> It was a domestic flight? I would have guessed incontinental.

This is golden.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/39 "2011-08-13T16:58:59Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Nope, Incontinental got bought by Urinited.

Ok, time to settle down now.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/40 "2011-08-13T19:03:39Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> What difference does it make? Since when is being drunk an excuse for anything?

Since intent became part of what makes crime crime.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-18-yr-guy-pees-on-11-yr-old-girl-while-on-a-jetblue-flight/592458/41 "2011-08-13T19:04:37Z")

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> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> This is golden.

They say you’re healthier when it’s the color of light straw.

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