# Drunk (former) UConn student Luke Gatti just wanted mac & cheese

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997 "2015-10-09T04:35:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/81 "2015-10-13T02:52:00Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> Are you two fucking kidding?  
> Stand around and watch while someone gets assaulted right in front of you?  
> Which is EXACTLY what happened.  
> Civilized adults assist people who need assistance.

The manager got pushed. Security showed up. Kid was cuffed. It’s not like he pulled a knife. You are way over dramaticizing it. A number of students asked if everything was ok and the manager sent them off.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/82 "2015-10-13T02:54:35Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Same reason 2 female students didn’t. Ain’t their job, ain’t no upside in it.
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> Or are you suggesting it _is_ men’s jobs to insert themselves into violent situations when they’re annoyed?

Yes **Chessic Sense** , I am suggesting males and not females assist in this case.  
If you can’t figure that out … I also didn’t say anything about “annoyed”.

If you are suggesting that there is no difference in a physical altercation, what if the kid had been shoving a woman, or the manager was 5 years older… or 10.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/83 "2015-10-13T02:55:54Z")

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I didn’t see anybody asking to help and being sent off.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/84 "2015-10-13T02:58:31Z")

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I am not “over dramaticizing” this.  
This is exactly what happens before someone throws a punch and people get hurt.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/85 "2015-10-13T03:01:49Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I didn’t see anybody asking to help and being sent off.

A couple of students call from off camera and he shakes them off.

Except for a couple of shoves they were talking the whole time, barely raising voices. The kid was a total ass, but didn’t need to be jumped or anything. Security took care of it. Very civilized and no one was risking a brawl or bystanders getting hurt. You really think the cafe manager wants some 18 year old kids jumping in?

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/86 "2015-10-13T03:14:42Z")

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“nobody needed to get jumped”

The kid got jumped.

Look, the video was funny because the kid was such an asshole, it went on for a long time, and nobody got hurt.

But, if two of the dudes standing there has taken the kid by the arms and walked him out of there, while telling him its time to GTFO before you’re arrested, a ton of time and money would have been saved.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/87 "2015-10-13T03:20:29Z")

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And when the kid fought back (he rushed the society officer while cuffed!) and broke someone’s nose, how woukd that play out?

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/88 "2015-10-13T03:36:30Z")

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It would have played out exactly (I need a synonym) the same. But the manager wouldn’t have been threatened for , what was it 9 minutes. I don’t know if you have ever been in his situation , but that is a LONG time. Things like this happens all the time. _Usually_ the kids friends (I think the kid may be lacking friends for some strange reason) or random strangers, as I’m suggesting, can defuse this. But no, you DO NOT stand around waiting for the manager to get hurt. Two of his peers can walk him out. If he throws a punch at them, than they can put him down on the ground as easily as the people that did it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/89 "2015-10-13T03:37:41Z")

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Hey, let’s ease up on the kid. After all, he’s probably the next head coach at USC.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/90 "2015-10-13T03:57:14Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I saw a new report awhile back. That guy still hasn’t found a job worth a shit (his previous job was pretty sweet).

I hadn’t heard about this one so I [looked it up.](http://www.youngcons.com/man-berates-chick-fil-a-worker-now-many-believe-hes-getting-what-he-deserves/) Looks like he went from a 200k CFO gig with a million in stock options to living on food stamps in an RV. Ouch.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/91 "2015-10-13T04:47:00Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> The manager got pushed. Security showed up. Kid was cuffed. It’s not like he pulled a knife. You are way over dramaticizing it. A number of students asked if everything was ok and the manager sent them off.

_Police_ showed up. I know a lot of folks–and I’m not saying you are one–consider campus police to be “rent-a-cops” or some kind of joke, but in plenty of places, such as the University of Connecticut, the [campus police](http://police.uconn.edu/about-ucpd/department-overview/) are an actual police department.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/92 "2015-10-13T04:50:10Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> _Police_ showed up. I know a lot of folks–and I’m not saying you are one–consider campus police to be “rent-a-cops” or some kind of joke, but in plenty of places, such as the University of Connecticut, the [campus police](http://police.uconn.edu/about-ucpd/department-overview/) are an actual police department.

Aye, in Florida, campus police are the equivalent of State Troopers: they can arrest people anywhere, not just on campus.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/93 "2015-10-13T11:23:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> _Police_ showed up. I know a lot of folks–and I’m not saying you are one–consider campus police to be “rent-a-cops” or some kind of joke, but in plenty of places, such as the University of Connecticut, the [campus police](http://police.uconn.edu/about-ucpd/department-overview/) are an actual police department.

Good point. I was faculty at a state college in CT and while we had security guards (unlocked classrooms etc) it was the city or state police who showed up for real trouble. At UCONN it woukd the state police equivalents on campus as well.

I love the idea that the manager, who was clearly handling the situation, was so vulnerable that a couple of students should have handled it, in order to save time and money. Was the kid a threat (manger in trouble!) or no big deal (peers diffuse, why trouble the police)?

Anyway, I’m done with this hijack. Different points of view, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/94 "2015-10-13T12:29:41Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> He does not appear drunk, on alcohol at least.

WTF?  
He definitely appears drunk on alcohol! (is there another kind of drunk?)

The obvious crime being overlooked here is socks with sandals!

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/95 "2015-10-13T12:45:51Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> It would have played out exactly (I need a synonym) the same. But the manager wouldn’t have been threatened for , what was it 9 minutes. I don’t know if you have ever been in his situation , but that is a LONG time. Things like this happens all the time. _Usually_ the kids friends (I think the kid may be lacking friends for some strange reason) or random strangers, as I’m suggesting, can defuse this. But no, you DO NOT stand around waiting for the manager to get hurt. Two of his peers can walk him out. If he throws a punch at them, than they can put him down on the ground as easily as the people that did it.

There’s an enormous difference between the kid’s friends and random strangers. If I saw a friend going down this path, absolutely I’d try to talk him down, or physically lead him away from the situation. Because I’d expect that he’d listen to me, and not lash out at me, because **he knows me**. But an absolute stranger? Why would the kid listen to another stranger, when he’s already not listening to the manager? Why would the kid not react violently if a total stranger laid hands on him?

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/96 "2015-10-13T13:06:42Z")

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People should be considering what would have happened if the fellow had a gun ! Or a full auto machine-gun ! Or if he had suddenly produced a tripod Gatling-gun from his pants’ pocket and shot hundreds until the National Guard arrived and he shot them down too in droves ! And then he stalked the campus with a pair of samurai swords chopping everyone into little pieces !  
All sorts of things _might_ have happened: next time you see two people arguing, intervene !

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/97 "2015-10-21T21:36:03Z")

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And in the (hopefully) closing of this malodorous story.

[Student who went on mac and cheese tirade no longer at UConn](http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Student-who-went-on-mac-and-cheese-tirade-no-6582085.php)

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> A 19-year-old University of Connecticut student who went on a drunken, obscenity-laced tirade against food service workers for refusing to sell him jalapeno-bacon macaroni and cheese is no longer enrolled at the university and has been banned from all school property, UConn officials said Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/98 "2015-10-21T21:40:19Z")

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I look forward to the article after his Nov 3rd hearing. To which he shows up in a suit and tie, with daddy’s lawyers and argues that he’s too rich and good looking to go to jail.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/99 "2015-10-21T22:10:25Z")

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More like his ass is too tight for him to be a good bitch for his cellmate Bubba.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk-former-uconn-student-luke-gatti-just-wanted-mac-cheese/733997/100 "2015-10-21T22:19:08Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Aye, in Florida, campus police are the equivalent of State Troopers: they can arrest people anywhere, not just on campus.

Not so. Their jurisdiction is limited to the campus, other university-controlled property and stuff within 1,000 feet of those areas, except where a specific mutual aid agreement exists between the university and a county or municipality.

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