# Drunk

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 14, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755 "2012-04-14T12:58:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![lonv166](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@lonv166](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonv166)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/1 "2012-04-14T12:58:35Z")

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Who said (sic) “I may be drunk today madam, but tomorrow I will be sober and you will still be ugly.”

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/2 "2012-04-14T13:02:51Z")

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I’m moving this from ATMB (forum for discussions about the Message Board itself) to General Questions (forum for questions with factual answers), in hopes that you’ll get better responses. I’ve also edited the thread title to be a little more specific; see [FAQ - Guideliness and Etiquette: Use descriptive thread titles](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697092#post7697092)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/3 "2012-04-14T13:12:28Z")

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Not the exact quote but it looks like it was [Winston Churchill.](http://www.drmardy.com/repartee/historygreatreplies.shtml#wchurchill)

[Slightly different version.](http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/14033.Winston_S_Churchill)

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/4 "2012-04-14T13:18:57Z")

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Usually attributed to Winston Churchill, in response to Bessie Braddock, and there is apparently some evidence for it, via a bodyguard who claimed to have witnessed the exchange. The basic form of the joke goes back long before Churchill. Here’s a discussion of it:

> **[Quote Origin: Yes, I Am Drunk, But You Are Ugly. Tomorrow I Will Be Sober,...](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/08/17/sober-tomorrow/)**

He cites versions from the 19th century, and claims this about Churchill:

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> Churchill quotation expert Richard Langworth was told that the exchange with Braddock did occur in 1946 by a bodyguard who claimed that he was present. Family members are unconvinced. The vignette is included in “Churchill by Himself: The Definitive Collection of Quotations” [CHDQ]:
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> ```
> Bessie Braddock: Winston, you are drunk, and what’s more you are disgustingly drunk.
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> Winston Churchill: Bessie, my dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly.
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> ```

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/5 "2012-04-14T13:39:12Z")

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Note, BTW, that I’m not entirely convinced either, but at least that explains the common attribution.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/6 "2012-04-14T16:55:56Z")

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> Winston Churchill: Bessie, my dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly.

Man, he wasn’t just [kidding](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HpWLWnzSfPI/TeVzD3tq7HI/AAAAAAAADRY/DqT0zzUq48s/s1600/bessi-braddock-mp.jpg).

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/7 "2012-04-14T19:19:11Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Man, he wasn’t just [kidding](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HpWLWnzSfPI/TeVzD3tq7HI/AAAAAAAADRY/DqT0zzUq48s/s1600/bessi-braddock-mp.jpg).

OK, I LOL’d.

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/8 "2012-04-14T19:34:03Z")

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I thought I heard it in a W.C. Fields gag.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/9 "2012-04-14T20:04:53Z")

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Is the famous exchange between Lady Astor and Churchill original or does that too go back earlier?

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> Nancy Astor: Winston, if I were your wife I’d poison your coffee.
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> Churchill: If I were your husband, Madam, I’d drink it!

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/10 "2012-04-14T21:02:57Z")

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> [@florez](#):
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> I thought I heard it in a W.C. Fields gag.

You did. Churchill may have said it in 1946 but he very definitely was not the original source. W. C. Fields says it in his film “It’s a Gift” from 1934. I’ve always suspected the Churchill version was more likely wishful thinking than fact.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/11 "2012-04-14T21:42:38Z")

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I have it on good source that the actual exchange went:

Bessie Braddock: Winston, you are drunk, and what’s more you are disgustingly drunk.

Winston Churchill: Oh, go fuck yourself, you old cunt.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/12 "2012-04-14T22:06:55Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I have it on good source that the actual exchange went:
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> Bessie Braddock: Winston, you are drunk, and what’s more you are disgustingly drunk.
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> Winston Churchill: Oh, go fuck yourself, you old cunt.

Was your good source a National Lampoon from the mid-70s? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunk/618755/13 "2012-04-14T22:09:11Z")

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Am I so nongalant to remark that a lady has quoted from the National Lampoon without attribution?

George Bernard Shaw once sent a pair of tickets to an opening night to Churchill:

“Bring a friend, if you have one.”

Churchill replied:

“Eat it raw, touch-hole.”
