# Drunken young lawyer burns 9/11 shrine **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447 "2009-11-05T18:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/41 "2009-11-06T16:50:50Z")
Is this the shrine Mancow is always ranting about for honouring the Islamic terrorists with the Muslim moon and star? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/42 "2009-11-09T22:20:57Z")
> [@BrandonR](#): > > Oh yes, nothing but stupidity comes from Texas. :rolleyes: I don’t think his remark was meant as a broad brush as much as it was a quip designed to point to a very specific and readily identified example of someone who “gets drunk enough to the point where they think putting people in danger is acceptable?” Hyperbole, if you will. But I could be wrong, **Buster Chi Chi** may have a thing about all Texans, I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/43 "2009-11-10T16:14:28Z")
> [@BrandonR](#): > > Oh yes, nothing but stupidity comes from Texas. :rolleyes: Not the entire state, just Austin. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/44 "2009-11-10T17:36:01Z")
I thought Austin was a normal city that just got transplanted into Texas? ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/45 "2009-11-10T17:48:06Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Hmmm, according to people in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=538046&page=4), alcohol doesn’t make you do anything that you wouldn’t have done sober… Eh? I thought one of the points of that thread was that people have to take responsibility for their drunk actions as if they were performed sober. Not the same thing. I’m glad to see that he appears to be doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/46 "2009-11-10T18:01:58Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Hey, they don’t call it Alcoholics _Anonymous_ for nothing. At the meeting, they’ll think he was some _other_ guy who set fire to a 9/11 shrine and had his $150K job offer withdrawn. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/47 "2009-11-10T18:13:50Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > I thought Austin was a normal city that just got transplanted into Texas? [Wingnut](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)) [central](http://www.thealexjonesshow.com/). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/48 "2009-11-10T19:23:49Z")
> [@StoutHearted](#): > > Wow, I don’t know what outrages me more, that the guy committed arson on a sacred site, or that he was going to make $150,000 right out of school. Well, looks like one of those things has been taken care of! $150,000? Sidley Austin must have fallen upon hard times, like so many law firms in New York these days. A couple of years ago, the starting salary at even a medium-sized firm was at least $160,000, often more, and often (at least at big firms) accompanied by a sizeable signing bonus, along with year-end bonuses, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/49 "2009-11-13T23:47:16Z")
\Now, boys & girls, here is the story of a man. A man from Texas. He saw a birdy. A very pretty birdy. And then, he drove a $1,000,000 Bugatti Veyron into a swamp.\ [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap\_on\_fe\_st/us\_odd\_lagoon\_bugatti](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_lagoon_bugatti) He was from Texas. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/50 "2009-11-14T00:35:33Z")
> [@BrandonR](#): > > Oh yes, nothing but stupidity comes from Texas. :rolleyes: Well, no. Texans come from there too. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/51 "2012-07-04T22:11:31Z")
I found this thread accidentally and this is the latest update I could find: [Could a Harvard Law Grad Go to Jail for Failing to Pay What He Owes? - Above the Law](http://abovethelaw.com/2011/07/could-a-harvard-law-grad-go-to-jail-for-failing-to-pay-what-he-owes/) Is it wrong of me to think he’s suffered far too much? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/52 "2012-07-04T22:23:49Z")
What, no actual Harvard educated lawyers are loaning him any money to keep his ass out of jail? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/53 "2012-07-04T22:53:21Z")
> [@Confused dart cum](#): > > I found this thread accidentally and this is the latest update I could find:… Don’t think the fact that you are providing some pertinent information is going to stop the usual idiots from coming in to post pointless zombie jokes to show how clever they aren’t. They’re like dogs who can’t help tracking mud into the house every time they enter. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/54 "2012-07-04T22:57:32Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Don’t think the fact that you are providing some pertinent information is going to stop the usual idiots from coming in to post pointless zombie jokes to show how clever they aren’t. They’re like dogs who can’t help tracking mud into the house every time they enter. Can the usual idiots still come in and post jokes about people posting about the idiots who might come in and post pointless zombie jokes? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/55 "2012-07-04T23:02:07Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Don’t think the fact that you are providing some pertinent information is going to stop the usual idiots from coming in to post pointless zombie jokes to show how clever they aren’t. They’re like dogs who can’t help tracking mud into the house every time they enter. But fortunately, you’ve done it so the rest of us are off the hook and can discuss the topic. Okay, Schroeder’s in some serious debt. For self-inflicted reasons. Why should he expect his parents or his law school buddies to loan him the money to pay off his debts. I think it’s time for Schroader to man up. He should stop waiting until his dream job is offered and take a job that’s available and start earning money to pay off his debts. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/56 "2012-07-04T23:30:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Can the usual idiots still come in and post jokes about people posting about the idiots who might come in and post pointless zombie jokes? (If that’s what floats your boat…) I might have some sympathy for Schroeder if he had made at least some of the payment, but it seems he hasn’t. Judges are almost always willing to give someone more time for restitution if they demonstrate an effort. He seems to be completely avoiding it. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/57 "2012-07-05T14:53:08Z")
He already got more of a break than he deserved. 100hrs of community service, seriously? For getting drunk and burning down a Chapel. Since when can you replace a chapel in New York for $180,000? How is that even close to restitution? Huh? Since he plead guilty does that mean he can’t practice law? If he still gets to pass the bar I’m going to be very disappointed. I hope he’s forced to go back to court and then to jail. He deserves it in my opinion, the whole 7 years. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/58 "2012-07-05T15:17:36Z")
Throw his ass in jail and let him rot. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/59 "2012-07-05T15:21:46Z")
> [@Confused dart cum](#): > > I found this thread accidentally and this is the latest update I could find: [Could a Harvard Law Grad Go to Jail for Failing to Pay What He Owes? - Above the Law](http://abovethelaw.com/2011/07/could-a-harvard-law-grad-go-to-jail-for-failing-to-pay-what-he-owes/) > > Is it wrong of me to think he’s suffered far too much? Yes, it is wrong of you to think that. He’s barely suffered at all - no jail time whatsoever. Someone’s got to pay for the property he destroyed - and he seems to be the best candidate. Why should he be let off the hook? ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447/60 "2012-07-05T15:36:52Z")
He should be acquitted. If you look at the footage it’s clearly not arson - it’s a controlled demolition. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drunken-young-lawyer-burns-9-11-shrine/516447.md?page=4)