# DSeid, you are a heartless bastard! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430 "2007-02-08T23:58:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DragonChild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@DragonChild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonChild)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/1 "2007-02-08T23:58:10Z")
DSeid, you are so goddamn sickeningly evil that you’ve inspired me to register just to make this post. [Posting by the Grand Fuckwit:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8233357&postcount=102) > [@](#): > > A quick $300K because some teen aged girl got seriously hurt by stupidly diving into the shallow end of the pool and no one “adequately” protected her from her own stupidity. (hmmm, an under million dollar settlement. Does that mean more likely without merit according to your studies?) … > Now I know not the details of any of these cases nor am I interested in evaluating or debating each of their merits, but verdicts of this magnitude are generally not in the service of encouraging better medicine. Let’s go over some facts here. The settlement was for several million. The ‘stupid teenager’ was five years old. The pool company KNEW that the drains were deadly. All of this was posted in another thread you replied to, and you never apologized for these words. You are a dipshit. Seriously, how goddamn evil do you have to be to use a horribly maimed 5 year old as a political weapon? I couldn’t care less what you say about Edwards, lawyers, politicians, or the country’s legal state. But when you start outright lying and mispresenting cases, turning a 5 year old’s pain into a weapon, then you deserve a good reaming. This girl is going to have to spend her entire life on feeding tubes, hooked up to them for 12 hours every day, because of something that the pool company could have prevented had they given a damn. But do you care? No. You outright misrepresent facts, and say that you don’t care to hear corrections. I won’t correct you, then. But I will let you know that you are one of the most horribly cruel, heartless people I have ever seen post on this board. So to you, DSeid, I’d like to say - FUCK YOU! ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/2 "2007-02-09T00:23:59Z")
You are talking about Lakey v. Sta-Rite Industries, and **DSeid** is talking about Morgan v. Southeast Jurisdictional Admin. Council, Inc. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/3 "2007-02-09T00:24:33Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] Let’s go over some facts here. The settlement was for several million. The ‘stupid teenager’ was five years old. The pool company KNEW that the drains were deadly. All of this was posted in another thread you replied to, and you never apologized for these words. You are a dipshit. [/QUOTE] Let’s go over some facts here, too. You’re talking about _two different cases_. **DSeid** was NOT talking about the 5-year-old girl’s case, he was referring to THIS one: > [@](#): > > Morgan v. Southeast Jurisdictional Admin. > Council, Inc. (Wake Co. Superior Ct., NC, 1988) > > 14-year-old girl rendered quadriplegic from neck injury resulting from improperly supervised dive into shallow end of defendants’ pool. > > $875K settlement I don’t know to what extent this alters your ire or your opinion of **DSeid** , but at least get your facts straight before lambasting someone. ---
**Author:** ![DragonChild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@DragonChild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonChild)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/4 "2007-02-09T00:33:44Z")
:smack: Allow me to correct myself - **I** am a fuckwit. I missed **Captain Carrot** ’s link, and only saw the other pool case mentioned. For that, I will apologize - really god damned stupid first post of mine. I’m off to a good start… I’ll take back my words, but I still feel that DSeid was entirely too harsh. HOWEVER - I still feel that he, likewise, was too harsh. This was still a young girl, who’s badly injured. It seems grossly unfair to portray her as stupid for what happened. Could she be? Of course. But for all we know, it could have been a sill ymistake, that she suffers from. -sighs, and goes back to the stupid corner- ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/5 "2007-02-09T00:36:04Z")
[QUOTE=cmosdes] You are talking about Lakey v. Sta-Rite Industries, and **DSeid** is talking about Morgan v. Southeast Jurisdictional Admin. Council, Inc. [/QUOTE] I’m sure it’s just the lawyer in me, but I think this whole thread is pretty damn funny. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/6 "2007-02-09T00:36:45Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] DSeid, you are so goddamn sickeningly evil that you’ve inspired me to register just to make this post. [/QUOTE] Welcome to the Straight Dope! 😃 Oh, well, now that you’ve made such an awe-inspiring start, best wishes for an equally stupendous career here. Ah, that is, not necessarily in quite the same way… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/7 "2007-02-09T03:31:35Z")
[QUOTE=cmosdes] You are talking about Lakey v. Sta-Rite Industries, and **DSeid** is talking about Morgan v. Southeast Jurisdictional Admin. Council, Inc. [/QUOTE] This sort of top quality post is why I subscribe to the SDMB. Well done, cmosedes! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/8 "2007-02-09T05:37:05Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] I’m sure it’s just the lawyer in me, but I think this whole thread is pretty damn funny. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Kinda reminded me of the line from Richie Rich. “This is a cappuccino. I asked for a decaf cafe latte, you imbecile!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/9 "2007-02-09T07:02:54Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] :smack: Allow me to correct myself - **I** am a fuckwit. I missed **Captain Carrot** ’s link, and only saw the other pool case mentioned. For that, I will apologize - really god damned stupid first post of mine. I’m off to a good start… I’ll take back my words, but I still feel that DSeid was entirely too harsh. HOWEVER - I still feel that he, likewise, was too harsh. This was still a young girl, who’s badly injured. It seems grossly unfair to portray her as stupid for what happened. Could she be? Of course. But for all we know, it could have been a sill ymistake, that she suffers from. -sighs, and goes back to the stupid corner- [/QUOTE] You might want to consider asking the mods to close this thread. [edit] Oh, and welcome! [/edit] ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/10 "2007-02-09T07:25:07Z")
My first time being Pitted and I nearly missed the whole thing! Welcome aboard anyway. BTW, I do not dispute it was a tragedy for a teen to dive in a shallow end and become paralyzed. I too was a stupid teenager and as a father I live in fear of my kids being one fraction as stupid as I was. It really is merely by good luck that I didn’t kill myself when I was that age and several more beyond. (You’ll not see me discussing _my_ early giftedness in that gifted ed thread! :)) But I really couldn’t imagine collecting money from someone else for their failure in preventing my acting on my idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/11 "2007-02-09T11:53:56Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] :smack: Allow me to correct myself - **I** am a fuckwit. I missed **Captain Carrot** ’s link, and only saw the other pool case mentioned. For that, I will apologize - really god damned stupid first post of mine. I’m off to a good start… [/QUOTE] Talk to a lawyer. Maybe you can sue someone for pain and suffering. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/12 "2007-02-09T14:20:17Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] My first time being Pitted and I nearly missed the whole thing! Welcome aboard anyway. [/QUOTE] For a heartless bastard, you sure look like a gentleman. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/13 "2007-02-09T15:08:50Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] :smack: Allow me to correct myself - **I** am a fuckwit. I missed **Captain Carrot** ’s link, and only saw the other pool case mentioned. For that, I will apologize - really god damned stupid first post of mine. I’m off to a good start… I’ll take back my words, but I still feel that DSeid was entirely too harsh. HOWEVER - I still feel that he, likewise, was too harsh. This was still a young girl, who’s badly injured. It seems grossly unfair to portray her as stupid for what happened. Could she be? Of course. But for all we know, it could have been a sill ymistake, that she suffers from. -sighs, and goes back to the stupid corner- [/QUOTE] This will not do. You are being entirely too reasonable here. Don’t you realize the correct protocol for being caught out in a mistake in a Pit tread is to dig your heels in and insist you’re right, **DSeid** and everyone else is wrong, and then blame the (your choice:liberals/conservatives/neo-cons/Unitarians/one-eyed, left-handed, black, lesbian, Muslims who dip snuff). Seriously: good on you for responding maturely. Welcome aboard. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/14 "2007-02-09T16:50:48Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Talk to a lawyer. Maybe you can sue someone for pain and suffering. [/QUOTE] By joining the pile-on and contributing to the pain and suffering, seems to me you’re volunteering to join the pool of defendants in the suit. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/15 "2007-02-09T17:25:57Z")
[QUOTE=cmosdes] You are talking about Lakey v. Sta-Rite Industries, and **DSeid** is talking about Morgan v. Southeast Jurisdictional Admin. Council, Inc. [/QUOTE] Oh, man. I just looked up Lakey v. Sta-Rite Industries. :eek: First thought: eewww! Second thought: I wonder if that’s where Chuck Palahniuk got the idea for his short story “Guts” (which I to this day have not finished reading because it’s the only thing that’s ever been able to bring me (a lover of gory horror fiction) close enough to losing my cookies that I don’t want to risk it). Am I a bad person because “oh, the poor kid!” was only my \*third \* thought? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/16 "2007-02-09T17:27:48Z")
Could have been worse… I mean at least you didn’t make this mistake in the opening arguements of the actual trial. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/17 "2007-02-09T17:53:00Z")
This _had_ the makings of a great pit thread. **DragonChild** had to admit his(her?) mistake which is just downright logically (good on you BTW) Then **DSeid** had to come in a completely diffuse the situation. Way to fuck it up, guys! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DragonChild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@DragonChild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonChild)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/18 "2007-02-09T18:01:21Z")
[QUOTE=Dseid] But I really couldn’t imagine collecting money from someone else for their failure in preventing my acting on my idiocy. [/QUOTE] Honestly, now that I look at the issue again, I’m inclined to agree more with your assessment of the sitatuion. I apologize again - I feel really, really stupid right now, and thanks for understanding. To everyone complaining I’m being too reasonable, screw you. 😉 Thanks for the welcome all… I really need to hold my tongue. [QUOTE=Talon Karrade] You might want to consider asking the mods to close this thread. [/QUOTE] I thought moderators generally didn’t close pit threads, but if not, could a passing mod lock this? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dseid-you-are-a-heartless-bastard/391430/19 "2007-02-09T18:21:04Z")
[QUOTE=DragonChild] I thought moderators generally didn’t close pit threads, but if not, could a passing mod lock this? [/QUOTE] We generally don’t close Pit threads to bail out an OP from the consequences of an ill-considered Pitting. In this case, since you retracted your OP and **DSeid** doesn’t seem interested in yelling at you for pitting him, I think closing it is fine.