# Dualism vs. Another Way

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 6, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181 "2013-03-06T11:58:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![huck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@huck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/huck)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181/61 "2013-03-08T22:58:50Z")

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I strongly agree with Kepler’s post.

But I’d add that I don’t think that the OP was suggesting that there’s a “halfway” position between evolution and creationism that everyone should consider. Rather, I think he simply meant that not everyone who is religious, not even everyone who believes in a creative God, believes that life did not evolve or wishes to substitute religion for science.

As obvious as that seems, it is hard to tell from the way thngs are generally portrayed in the media and from reactions I’ve gotten in conversation, a few of them IRL rather than on the uber-contentious internet. But as a topic for debate this seems pretty unfruitful. It may be frustrating for me to be lumped in with those who believe fossil evidence is a hoax and all that other craziness, but so what?

This is quite unlike the abortion issue, where we’re not talking about ignoring clearcut scientific evidence in order to assert that the bible is literally true; rather, we’re talking about values,rights and ethics, and I do think folks who take extreme views on both sides could profit from listening to some more moderate views.

Nor do I agree that anyone who believes abortion should sometimes be allowed is “pro-choice” under any reasonable definition of that term.

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**Author:** ![Moon\_Meyers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Moon\_Meyers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moon_Meyers)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181/62 "2013-06-08T20:14:28Z")

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I appreciate your question. the replies I have seen in other threads, could be subtitled “fostering ignorance”; people have a particular view and are reluctant to give it up, much less read something that might challenge their viewpoint. There of course is a third way to view things, but entails undoing about 3 centuries of current thought.

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181/63 "2013-06-08T20:30:18Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Wisdom has nothing in particular to do with being kind, except when being kind happens to be the right decision. Being ruthless can be wise too; it all depends of the circumstances. A sniper shooting a hostage taker to save the hostage isn’t kind, but it’s effective.

I imagine the hostage thinks it is kind.

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**Author:** ![Moon\_Meyers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Moon\_Meyers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moon_Meyers)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181/64 "2013-06-11T14:55:56Z")

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> [@Kepler1571](#):
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> The logical precursor to wisdom is kindness.

I heard it as, “The function of Wisdom, is kindness(generosity)”

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**Author:** ![Moon\_Meyers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Moon\_Meyers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moon_Meyers)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dualism-vs-another-way/652181/65 "2013-06-11T15:53:55Z")

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> [@K.S.Masmacho](#):
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> It describes [\*\*a group that is continually finding alternative ways to doing things \*\*](http://archives.citypaper.net/articles/2009/03/12/the-simple-way-kensington-philadelphia)(including \*\*going up against the church \*\*itself).
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Thank you for the reference. I learned of this group several years ago, but lost track of them after their house burned. I am glad they continued.

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