# Dubya Debate Muppet

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 8, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191 "2004-10-08T13:29:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/1 "2004-10-08T13:29:35Z")

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It appears that [Salon.com](http://Salon.com) is running a story which contends that George W Bush was wearing a receiver and earphone during last week’s presidential debate. enhanced image from [www.electoral-vote.com/images/bulge.jpg](http://www.electoral-vote.com/images/bulge.jpg) looks damning to me. I, for one, can easily believe that this kind of cheating would not work in the “President’s” favor, as he’d have to pay attention to more than one thing at a time. His performance in the debate seems to bear this out. Pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/2 "2004-10-08T13:52:57Z")

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[For folks that want a Great Debates discussion of the Battle of the Bulge](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279828).

Daniel

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/3 "2004-10-08T13:54:49Z")

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Oops. Thanks. Fuck. 😛

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/4 "2004-10-08T14:01:54Z")

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😃 No problem; this is a place to rant, that’s a place to debate.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/5 "2004-10-08T15:04:42Z")

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And I guess my rant (possibly premature, but what the hey) is:

‘You stupid, juvenile, incompetent fart-huffers! I’ve seen better attempts at / results from cheating out of ADD, PlayStation addled, betel nut chewing 11-year-olds! Actually, the fact (?) that you went to all that effort to cheat and _still_ couldn’t get the Chimp in Chief to come off as minimally competent fills me with The Glee That Will Last Till 9:00 When I Can Watch You Blather Hopelessly Again. Putzes!’

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/6 "2004-10-08T15:16:44Z")

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Good rant. I score it an 8.5 out of 10. I am also waiting for tonight’s debate, with sadistic glee.

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**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/7 "2004-10-08T15:26:46Z")

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That link seems to be broken **irae** , at least at the moment anyway.

But yes, even if Dubya was cheating, it’s not like it helped him. Did it? Or would he have just been standing there drooling gently on the podium if Cheney/Rove hadn’t been spoonfeeding him lines?

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/8 "2004-10-08T15:59:14Z")

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Looks like the image has been moved to [www.electoral-vote2.com/images/bulge.jpg](http://www.electoral-vote2.com/images/bulge.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Satyagrahi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Satyagrahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyagrahi)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/9 "2004-10-08T16:01:30Z")

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I really don’t think that bulge reveals an attempt to cheat; not even Bush would be that stupid. I think.

But if it was…what **irae** said.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/10 "2004-10-08T16:04:32Z")

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I refuse to look for a bulge in Bush’s pants!

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/11 "2004-10-08T16:18:06Z")

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Mini Karl?!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/12 "2004-10-08T16:35:55Z")

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An interesting quote from the Salon article:

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> Suggestions that Bush may have using this technique stem from a D-day event in France, when a CNN broadcast appeared to pick up – and broadcast to surprised viewers – the sound of another voice seemingly reading Bush his lines, after which Bush repeated them. Danny Schechter, who operates the news site [MediaChannel.org](http://MediaChannel.org), and who has been doing some investigating into the wired-Bush rumors himself, said the Bush campaign has been worried of late about others picking up their radio frequencies – notably during the Republican Convention on the day of Bush’s appearance. “They had a frequency specialist stop me and ask about the frequency of my camera,” Schechter said. “The Democrats weren’t doing that at their convention.”

If it’s true, how weird is that to have someone else reading the President lines during a frickin’ debate? I have this great mental image of Cheney hiding behind a curtain with a microphone. “Good, now call him a flip-flopper again. Very good.”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/13 "2004-10-08T16:42:45Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> An interesting quote from the Salon article:

Yep–that quote, if true, makes the whole situation that much stranger. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/14 "2004-10-08T16:48:51Z")

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So then what the Kerry people need to do is go out and get themselves a state of the art frequency scanner, and a wickedly powerful burst transmitter. The kind of equipment that if used anywhere near the sea shore would cause human sterility and brain embolisms in whales. Set the frequency scanner to run across it’s entire bandwidth capability and burst transmit a 1000 decibel recording of dolphin calls.

That will put an end to that little trick real quick…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/15 "2004-10-08T16:51:13Z")

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If we’re gonna go wishful thinking, they need instead to get the scanner, the burst transmitter, **and a guy who can impersonate Karl Rove**. Talk about your good times!

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/16 "2004-10-08T17:04:37Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> So then what the Kerry people need to do is go out and get themselves a state of the art frequency scanner, and a wickedly powerful burst transmitter. The kind of equipment that if used anywhere near the sea shore would cause human sterility and brain embolisms in whales. Set the frequency scanner to run across it’s entire bandwidth capability and burst transmit a 1000 decibel recording of dolphin calls.
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> That will put an end to that little trick real quick…

Nonononono. You feed him “The Hokey Pokey” and laugh your ass off as he starts waving body parts around.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/17 "2004-10-08T17:16:15Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> If we’re gonna go wishful thinking, they need instead to get the scanner, the burst transmitter, **and a guy who can impersonate Karl Rove**. Talk about your good times!
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> Daniel

Moderator: “You have 30 seconds…”

GWB “See, I think the important thing about the economy is that I’m romantically attracted to chickens.”

Moderator: “Excuse me, Mr. President?”

GWB (clutchting ear): “No, no, what I meant to say is don’t be fooled by the rocks that I got, I’m still Jenny from the block.”

Moderator: “Ahh…”

GWB: “That’s why we as a people need to do the Funky Broadway, and not shoot the sherrif without shooting also the deputy. Also, I pardon Charles Manson.”

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/18 "2004-10-08T17:19:42Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Nonononono. You feed him “The Hokey Pokey” and laugh your ass off as he starts waving body parts around.

You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out…

Hey! He’s flip-floppin!

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/19 "2004-10-08T17:56:14Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> Moderator: “You have 30 seconds…”
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> GWB “See, I think the important thing about the economy is that I’m romantically attracted to chickens.”
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> Moderator: “Excuse me, Mr. President?”
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> GWB (clutchting ear): “No, no, what I meant to say is don’t be fooled by the rocks that I got, I’m still Jenny from the block.”
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> Moderator: “Ahh…”
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> GWB: “That’s why we as a people need to do the Funky Broadway, and not shoot the sherrif without shooting also the deputy. Also, I pardon Charles Manson.”

I now have peanut M&M pieces all over my desk. **Claricaun** , I think I love you.

Robin

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**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dubya-debate-muppet/268191/20 "2004-10-08T19:27:03Z")

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When I read the title of this thread, I thought y’all were talking about [this](http://www.playbill.com/news/article/88733.html)

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