# Duck Duck Goose.  TubaDiva evangelism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 13, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888 "2005-02-13T18:13:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/141 "2005-02-19T03:36:42Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> But Ike’s not a homo, you douchebag.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/142 "2005-02-19T03:52:09Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> now that she has a better understanding of how to apply her integrity when balancing various concerns.

So she was too dumb to know how to apply integrity before?

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/143 "2005-02-19T03:55:55Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> She’s a rash, judgmental, impulsive person who doesn’t understand professional responsibility.

You are a perceptive person.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/144 "2005-02-19T04:24:52Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> So she was too dumb to know how to apply integrity before?

Not dumb. Just lacking in experience in that particular sort of situation.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/145 "2005-02-19T04:59:15Z")

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Jesus Christ, **zombie** , while I agree with you about **Tuba** , let it go with the whole “douchebag” thing.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/146 "2005-02-19T05:33:11Z")

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God, what a train wreck.

In this thread we have people calling each other juvenile names, people going totally psycho nuts over the use of juvenile names, people saying that temporary things are not temporary, people calling for the public beheading of anyone who ever makes a mistake, and people being accused of lacking all integrity because of one error. It’s 144 straight posts of the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle.

Everyone needs to take a fucking chill pill and shut up.

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/147 "2005-02-19T05:37:39Z")

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**catsix** and **ZombiesAteMyBrain** ,

I have struggled to keep quiet about you two idiots but you won’t allow the OWNERS and MANAGEMENT of this message board to run the damn thing without flapping your stupid heads all over the place.  
Beat a dead horse much?. Please do the world a favor, STFU and/or go away!  
Unclviny

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/148 "2005-02-19T06:16:35Z")

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> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#):
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> It wasn’t teasing - it was extremely rude, uncalled for, and another example of the total lack of respect that the moderators have for the members here - but, hey, you’ll never see that, or care about it, because you’ve your head so deeply embedded in Ike’s anus that you can’t see daylight.  
> You think _I’m_ a baby - as you sit there hanging onto your ‘Of course the mods can do no wrong’ security blanket. Now, _that’s_ sad!!!

I think you misunderstand my intentions. I’m not telling you to stop acting like a humorless hypersensitive douchebag out of defense of the mods. Fuck the mods. I’m telling you to stop acting like a humorless hypersensitive douchebag because I find humorless hypersensitive douchebags irritating and think they deserve mockery. That’s just part of the deal when it comes to Internet message boards. Just as you are free to post over and over again about how agonizingly offended you are that you got called a douchebag one time, I’m free to tell you what a loser it makes you look like. (Answer: a big one, with bad hair and one foot stuck in a trash can.)

Feel free to respond with righteous indignation.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/149 "2005-02-19T06:20:23Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Jesus Christ, **zombie** , while I agree with you about **Tuba** , let it go with the whole “douchebag” thing.

He can’t; his good name has been impugned! I say a duel at sunrise.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/150 "2005-02-19T13:00:12Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> He can’t; his good name has been impugned! I say a duel at sunrise.

Douchebags at twenty paces.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/151 "2005-02-19T13:59:29Z")

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> **unclviny** said:  
> Beat a dead horse much?. Please do the world a favor, STFU and/or go away!

Be a salad-tosser or leave, huh?

You don’t like it, don’t fucking read it. I’m entitled to hold the opinion that **TubaDiva** should not ever be a mod or admin again, and that she makes stupid decisions based on personal hot-buttons that someone of admin status is supposed to put aside and not act upon.

Maybe you should remain in the brown-nosing thread where every suck-up on the forum is eagerly awaiting the return of the admin without integrity. I notice you don’t have a problem with the fact that they’re continuing to lick the ass of a dead horse.

Really, I’m wondering, how long can you people stay on your knees before you get sore?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/152 "2005-02-19T14:16:04Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Be a salad-tosser or leave, huh?

You got a little persecution complex on your shirt.

> [@catsix](#):
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> You don’t like it, don’t fucking read it. I’m entitled to hold the opinion that **TubaDiva** should not ever be a mod or admin again, and that she makes stupid decisions based on personal hot-buttons that someone of admin status is supposed to put aside and not act upon.

]You are, of course, entitled to your judgmental, draconian opinion, yes. You are also free to make it, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, like the broken record you are. But, just so you know, it just gets tedious and makes you look like the whiny attention whore you are.

> [@catsix](#):
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> Maybe you should remain in the brown-nosing thread where every suck-up on the forum is eagerly awaiting the return of the admin without integrity. I notice you don’t have a problem with the fact that they’re continuing to lick the ass of a dead horse.

I think you are fucking batshit crazy for thinking **TubaDiva** is “without integrity” because of what has happened on this board. I also think that you’re a reactionary, drama queen who needs to shut the fuck up already.

> [@catsix](#):
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> Really, I’m wondering, how long can you people stay on your knees before you get sore?

How long you going to stay on that cross?

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/153 "2005-02-19T14:30:06Z")

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> **Hamlet** said:  
> You got a little persecution complex on your shirt.

Not everybody who dislikes your tongue-in-asshole routine feels persecuted. Personally, I just don’t like to watch rimjobbing.

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> it just gets tedious and makes you look like the whiny attention whore you are.

Rather like the continual sucking up over in the big Kiss Tuba’s Ass thread?

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> I think you are fucking batshit crazy for thinking TubaDiva is “without integrity” because of what has happened on this board.

And I think anybody who’d trust her after this should have their fucking head examined. Somehow I think privacy would start becoming a big deal to you people if it were **TubaDiva** ’s personal information, or _yours_ that were published.

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> How long you going to stay on that cross?

Why don’t you just head on over to the other thread where you can suck up in peace?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/154 "2005-02-19T14:54:27Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Not everybody who dislikes your tongue-in-asshole routine feels persecuted. Personally, I just don’t like to watch rimjobbing.

So you’ll be a tedious, judgmental bitch because there is another thread in existance that you feel is being tedious and supportive? Mighty fine priorities you got there.

> [@catsix](#):
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> And I think anybody who’d trust her after this should have their fucking head examined. Somehow I think privacy would start becoming a big deal to you people if it were **TubaDiva** ’s personal information, or _yours_ that were published.

Got it. I got it over seven days and 20 posts of yours ago. You think **TubaDiva** can’t be trusted and should be exiled from the board. Everybody on the fucking board got that point a week ago. You’re need to make the point like a broken record is what makes you a pathetic, sad, attention whore. I know you’ve got you’re whole “Rebel Without a Cause” schtick going here, but playing it up for the hundredth time just makes you incredibly annoying.

> [@catsix](#):
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> Why don’t you just head on over to the other thread where you can suck up in peace?

But I might miss you getting on your high horse, needing to be the center of attention yet again, and saying, for the hundredth time, that **Tuba** screwed up and needs to be banned. Me, I just can’t get enough of it. I was just afraid other posters might get the impression you’re an annoying, petty, judgmental bitch.

But, I now realize that, by posting these responses to you, I am, in fact, feeding your overwhelming compulsion to be the center of attention. That was my mistake, so I’ll let you get in whatever idiotic retort you want, and I’ll hope like hell this thread just dies as it should have days ago.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/155 "2005-02-19T15:01:19Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> I’m entitled to hold the opinion that . . .

And anyone who disagrees with your opinion is an asslicker.

With that sort of approach to discussion, you won’t do very well around here.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/156 "2005-02-19T15:03:08Z")

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> **Hamlet** said:  
> So you’ll be a tedious, judgmental bitch because there is another thread in existance that you feel is being tedious and supportive? Mighty fine priorities you got there.

I can’t let that monumentally stupid sucking up go on unopposed.

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> You think TubaDiva can’t be trusted and should be exiled from the board.

Apparently you don’t got it, you sanctimonious twat. I think she should be demoted to regular poster.

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> I know you’ve got you’re whole “Rebel Without a Cause” schtick going here, but playing it up for the hundredth time just makes you incredibly annoying.

So, quit reading my posts if you don’t like them. Might I suggest the ‘ignore’ feature?

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> But I might miss you getting on your high horse, needing to be the center of attention yet again, and saying, for the hundredth time, that Tuba screwed up and needs to be banned.

Pull your tongue out of her asshole long enough to realize that I never said she should be banned. I said she should no longer be an admin or a mod. She should be a regular poster, with no access to any kind of confidential information at all.

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> That was my mistake, so I’ll let you get in whatever idiotic retort you want, and I’ll hope like hell this thread just dies as it should have days ago.

You, like the administration, want everybody to just forget that this happened so the next time it does they can shriek and wail that it’s the ‘first time anything like this has ever happened’ and that the paying members need to be understanding?

Is that it?

That’s not about to happen.

Once again I wonder whether you’d consider privacy so minor if it was _your_ personal information that was no longer private.

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> **Muffin** said:  
> And anyone who disagrees with your opinion is an asslicker.

You started the salad-tossing thread, stupid. Of course you’re an ass-licker.

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> With that sort of approach to discussion, you won’t do very well around here.

Thanks, but I don’t really need the advice of a worthless apple polisher like you.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/157 "2005-02-19T15:22:45Z")

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Ya know, if I had a nickel for everytime catsix wrote “ass”, “rimming”, “salad”, or “tongue” . . . .

So tell is again cat, how do you feel about Tuba? I missed it the first 9000 times you said it.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/158 "2005-02-19T15:32:05Z")

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> **Diane** said:  
> So tell is again cat, how do you feel about Tuba? I missed it the first 9000 times you said it.

She’s an impulsive, judgmental, hot-headed, condescending bitch who can’t exercise some self-control and keep her mouth shut when she should.

Is that better?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/159 "2005-02-19T16:03:09Z")

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Good Lord, can we beat this deceased equine any more?

**TubaDiva** gave over six years of herself to keeping this board and its predecessor running smoothly, mixing justice and compassion in what I consider an eminently fair way. She got distraught by something that, while I’ll respect the Reader’s wish not to discuss, can be reasonably classified as an accusation that someone had used the board that she felt, I believe justifiably, a strong sense of proprietorship over – “_her_ board, to which she was devoved” – for one of the most nefarious of crimes. And she over-reacted, and broke confidentiality in what I’m sure she considered one of the most worthy of ends. And for that was duly suspended and term-banned by the Reader, in what they considered to be the appropriate punishment for her offense. Is there no one but me who is willing to see the whole episode in context, and to be willing to grant some _forgiveness_ – not condonation but “Yeah, she was wrong, but she had some extenuating circumstances behind her, and she’s been duly punished, now let’s get on with life” forgiveness?

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duck-duck-goose-tubadiva-evangelism/289888/160 "2005-02-19T16:24:56Z")

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I think she was more than wrong, I think she was outright vicious in what she did. The sneering manner of her post indicated to me that she was taking joy in doing what she did, not believing she ‘had to’ in order to ‘protect the community.’

She was spiteful, condescending, hot-headed, and wrong. And I don’t think for a minute that she wouldn’t do it again. It doesn’t matter to me how many years of ‘service’ she’s given, her judgment can’t be trusted and I don’t think she’s been ‘punished enough’.

She shouldn’t ever be a mod or admin again. She ought to be relegated to the ranks of regular member, where she’s not privvy to information that she will viciously and vindictively use against someone on one of her personal crusades again.

I think it’s a problem that she thinks this place belongs to her. I think her ego about her being an admin is way too big, and that she needs to step down among the ranks of the lowly humans again. Whatever tiny amount of respect I used to have for her, I no longer do.

And I think she’d start thinking privacy was a big deal if it was _her_ name and home address that were published for all to see.

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