# Dude, It's Just A Pair of PANTS!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 13, 2007, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828 "2007-06-13T08:51:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/41 "2007-06-13T22:52:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
What kind of legal system would even allow this loon a day in court? Why wasn’t this stupidity tossed out for the irresponsibly inane piece of crap that it is? Someone needs to throw both judges in jail - plaintiff and sitting judge.  
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That would be the kind of legal system we have in our great nations capitol. I suggest you move here as soon as possible. If you haven’t bought any trousers lately make sure you do as I’m sure you’ll be needing a receipt . Buy them at Mens Warehouse or the like . The more expensive the better. Remember , Save Your Receipt . You’ll be needing it for your day in court and stock up on kleenex. Oh , also , throw away all your Xanax and like drugs . You won’t be needing any of that crap. Bring just enough money to live for a year or so . You know our legal system is a little slow , but after that money will be of no concern to you any more.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/42 "2007-06-14T02:04:26Z")

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But in all seriousness, if the dry cleaners actually tried to pass off anther pair of pants as his, before the lawsuit, then they aren’t exactly blameless.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/43 "2007-06-14T02:10:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
But in all seriousness, if the dry cleaners actually tried to pass off anther pair of pants as his, before the lawsuit, then they aren’t exactly blameless.  
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But liable to the tune of $54 million? They also made serious, _reasonable_ settlement offers, even if the pants they found were mistakenly identified as his. (Sidebar: is it mentioned anywhere whether those pants would hve fit Mr. MoneyPants?)

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/44 "2007-06-14T02:14:17Z")

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What does he need pants for anyway? Everyone knows crazy judges don’t wear anything under their robes.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/45 "2007-06-14T02:14:55Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
But liable to the tune of $54 million? They also made serious, _reasonable_ settlement offers, even if the pants they found were mistakenly identified as his. (Sidebar: is it mentioned anywhere whether those pants would hve fit Mr. MoneyPants?)  
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No way am I saying the guy should get anything more than the price of the suit and a couple hundred dollars at best, but I could see how something like giving him a fake pair on purpose in an attempt to fool him could set off an obvious mental case like this guy. And he’s not the first to say a dry cleaners wasn’t that helpful in a situation like this. But no, he should be sued for wasting taxpayer money, and whoever allowed this trial to go on should be fired. I would love to see the video of him crying over his lost pants in court- hilarious!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/46 "2007-06-14T02:19:56Z")

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I resent the media acting as if he’s greedy and totally ignoring his own words about the verdict:

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> Pearson said that he wants only $2 million in damages for himself - for his mental anguish and inconvenience - plus $500,000 in attorney’s fees for representing himself. Anything more that Bartnoff might award him would go into a fund “to educate people of their rights under the Consumer Protection Act,” he said.

So really, only $2.5 million is for himself.

He swears that the charcoal gray pants he was given back were not his.

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> “I haven’t worn pants with cuffs since the 1970s,” Pearson said. He also submitted into evidence a photograph of every pair of pants in his home to show that he does not like pants with cuffs.

Instead his own suit was navy blue and maroon. He wants it known he doesn’t wear cuffed pants because they’re out of style- but he has a blue and maroon suit. This guy has a semi-automatic and a Wendys in his future.

I wonder if he’s considered suing the producers of _Fresh Prince of BelAir_ for basing Sherman Hemsley’s barking mad judge character on a projection of what he would be like in 10 years. They have a lot more money than dry cleaners I’d think (and Sherman Hemsley played a dry cleaner- AND went broke- hmmm… there’s a Sherman Hemsley Code at work here somewhere.)

I wonder if it’s possible to sentence a plaintiff in a civil case to counselling. (Apparently the guy flipped after a divorce left him next to broke and on unemployment benefits according to [this article](http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/13/ap3819792.html).)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/47 "2007-06-14T02:21:11Z")

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The defendants could have said, “Ha ha, stupid judge, we fed your pants to a mongrel dog because we hate America, plus we fucked your mother!” and the judge wouldn’t be entitled to anything more than the cost of the pants. Whether the defendants made a good-faith effort to settle only indicates whether he’s entitled to the cost of the pants or not; if they did, he ought not be entitled to anything except a rapid disbarment and a bill for the defendants’ court costs.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/48 "2007-06-14T02:22:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
No way am I saying the guy should get anything more than the price of the suit and a couple hundred dollars at best, but I could see how something like giving him a fake pair on purpose in an attempt to fool him could set off an obvious mental case like this guy. And he’s not the first to say a dry cleaners wasn’t that helpful in a situation like this. But no, he should be sued for wasting taxpayer money, and whoever allowed this trial to go on should be fired. **I would love to see the video of him crying over his lost pants in court- hilarious!** \*  
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Sorry, **Wee Bairn** , I forgot to indicate that I knew \*you knew \* how ridiculous this is. At most, this should be forced to go before some sort of arbitration panel, if that’s possible.

- Where are covert camera phone videos on YouTube when ya need 'em.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/49 "2007-06-14T02:28:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
The defendants could have said, “Ha ha, stupid judge, we fed your pants to a mongrel dog because we hate America, plus we fucked your mother!” and the judge wouldn’t be entitled to anything more than the cost of the pants.  
Daniel  
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Too funny!

**5-4** , I’m with you 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/50 "2007-06-14T02:33:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
No way am I saying the guy should get anything more than the price of the suit and a couple hundred dollars at best, but I could see how something like giving him a fake pair on purpose in an attempt to fool him could set off an obvious mental case like this guy. And he’s not the first to say a dry cleaners wasn’t that helpful in a situation like this.  
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Of course, many people could be “induced” to testify, if they thought they might get a cut of the settlement.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/51 "2007-06-14T02:34:42Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
There are times when I really think the courts need to have the “Take him out back and beat the shit out of him” option to deal with stuff like this.  
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Every single day, my friend. I think the same thing every. single. day.

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**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/52 "2007-06-14T02:52:30Z")

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Angst Bout My Pants; The Ballad of Judge Roy  
(all props to[Gunnar Madsen](http://www.gunnarmadsen.com/ants/ants.html);Children’s music artiste)

I got angst about my pants  
Nobody seems to understand my fears  
It is so hard to sit still  
and wait until  
The court sees you bust into tears  
I got to got to got to go  
yeah everybody don’t you know  
I got the angst…bout my pants

The cleaner tells me to be quiet  
He says “Don’t see those pants here”  
He pretends he never had angst  
Bout his pants  
He acts like he don’t even care  
I’d like to give him all my angst  
And then I’d watch him do a dance  
(all the way to france!)  
I’d like to put my angst…in his pants

I wish I wish I could be calm  
To be serene would be sublime  
I would sit and read the best law books  
Wouldn’t get no shocked and dirty looks  
I’d be contented all the time  
But no matter how I try  
I just can’t be that kind of guy  
Fish gotta swim  
And birds gotta fly  
And if I don’t get to sue, well, I’m gonna up and die

I got the itches in my britches  
And yet I’m told to settle for twelve thou  
I’m gonna bust all the stitches  
In my britches  
If I don’t get millions this go round  
Yeah there’s an itch I’ve gotta scratch  
I can’t sit here after injustice, bad business  
Ya really gotta watch  
I’ve got itches  
In my britches  
I’ve got angst  
Bout my pants

Chorus:  
Repeat wailing ad nauseum

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/53 "2007-06-25T14:57:43Z")

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The poor man will _never_ get his pants back now. He [lost](http://www.kktv.com/coloradonews/headlines/8164972.html) the case.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/54 "2007-06-25T15:07:33Z")

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Plus the Chungs were [awarded court costs](http://www.nbc4.com/news/13561404/detail.html?dl=mainclick). Justice is served!

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/55 "2007-06-25T15:09:02Z")

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He lost more than that…

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> Bartnoff ordered Pearson to pay the court costs of defendants Soo Chung, Jin Nam Chung and Ki Y. Chung.

]([WTOP | Washington’s Top News | DC, MD & VA News, Traffic & Weather](http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1174404))  
Edit… Too Slow. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/56 "2007-06-25T15:34:02Z")

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What’s that thing that Nelson Muntz always says?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/57 "2007-06-25T15:41:13Z")

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“…and furthermore, it is the judgement of this court that you shall be made to sit in an empty oil drum which the defendants shall beat upon with baseball bats for a period not in excess of fifteen minutes. That is all. _rap_ Next case!”

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/58 "2007-06-25T15:57:51Z")

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I wonder if those pants happened to be blue Jeans. 😉

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/59 "2007-06-25T16:26:05Z")

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Now he probably needs to have his underwear professionally cleaned.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dude-its-just-a-pair-of-pants/407828/60 "2007-06-25T16:27:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
Plus the Chungs were [awarded court costs](http://www.nbc4.com/news/13561404/detail.html?dl=mainclick). Justice is served!  
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Unfortunately the court costs added up to a little over $1000. The Chungs have to go after him for their legal fees ($10,000+) seperately.

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