# DudleyGarrett, you're a plag\[i\]arist and a coward **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227 "2009-09-15T20:48:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/61 "2009-09-16T00:47:03Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I had, with no evidence, assumed for years that disabling PMs meant that one could no longer send PMs as well as receive them. I’ve got to assume that both you and **twickster** have found out differently. > > I’ll test. I will turn off my PMs, and then try to send you one. A most interesting experiment. I got: - Frank Frank is online now Charter Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Creve Coeur, Missouri Posts: 12,378 Testing Did you get this? Can you respond? \* I tried to reply, and saw: \*The following errors occurred with your submission: 1. Frank has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. - Exactly what happened when I tried to answer **Dudley** prior to this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/62 "2009-09-16T00:47:20Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Unless Dudley claimed that the jokes were of his own creation, you’re full of shit. > > People find jokes on the net and post or forward them all the time. It doesn’t rise to the level of plagiarism. One joke, sure. I mean, maybe you heard it. But a list of a bunch of jokes? No attribution or link? That more or less \*defines \*plagiarism. On preview, more or less what **Guinastasia** sez. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/63 "2009-09-16T00:48:00Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Well, maybe if Oakminster didn’t start shit over nothing at all, then this wouldn’t be an issue. From my seat, Oakminster escalated things by acting like a officious prick. The correct and reasoned response would have been to hit the alert button > and move on. But NOOOOOO, can’t just do that. gotta make a “statement”. I have to agree with **tacoloco**. **Oakminster** didn’t need to make the holier-than-thou post, just report the thread when he thought little **Dudley** was buying his term paper off the inter-webs. _But_ little **Dudley** upped the assholenitude with the PM and then blocking replies, giving **Oakie** good cause to extend the attention-whoring. Just my 2¢ and dammit, I want change! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/64 "2009-09-16T00:50:30Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > 1. Frank has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. That leaves two possibilities. Either he turned off PMs or he has been suspended and is not allowed to receive them. ---
**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/65 "2009-09-16T00:50:51Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Oh I think it may get better. I understand the Guest of Honor intends to defend himself at some point, once he resolves mysterious technical difficulties preventing him from posting. He also claims the he can’t send PMs. I assume that would include the PM he sent me that I posted above. Little birdy told me there’s something posted elsewhere about it. Note that I will not be appearing elsewhere, nor should anyone on my behalf, please. > > I’m gonna grab a beer and make some popcorn, but I will be taking a break to watch _Warehouse 13_ shortly. Far be it from me to get in the way of your orgasmic anticipation, but, if what he said elsewhere, that he has not been able to send or receive PMs nor post to the board since sending Twickster a PM to shove the warning, is true, maybe something got messed up when recording the warning that has caused the problem. In which case half your reason for pitting him will be invalid. Or not. We now return you to your regularly scheduled pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/66 "2009-09-16T00:52:44Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Just my 2¢ and dammit, I want change! Then I hope you voted for Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/67 "2009-09-16T00:53:24Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Exactly what happened when I tried to answer **Dudley** prior to this pitting. OK, so it looks like all one has to do is turn PMs on to send, and then turn them off to disable responses. Coward, you said? I can’t disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/68 "2009-09-16T00:54:24Z")
Remember [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508277&highlight=plagiarism), where Starving Artist posted some right wing thing without attribution? He got a 7 page pile on for committing plagiarism, and wound up apologizing for it in a pretty classy manner. This sort of thing is not without precedent, is all I’m saying. One can only hope it’ll have as good an outcome… but hey, maybe Dudley Garrett just doesn’t have the classiness that Starving Artist does. That would be something. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/69 "2009-09-16T00:54:34Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > OK, so it looks like all one has to do is turn PMs on to send, and then turn them off to disable responses. > > Coward, you said? I can’t disagree. What if he was suspended between the time he sent the PM and **Oakminster** tried to reply? ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/70 "2009-09-16T00:57:36Z")
What’s the frequency **dudley**? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/71 "2009-09-16T00:59:43Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > What if he was suspended between the time he sent the PM and **Oakminster** tried to reply? Is he suspended? His title should show BANNED or Suspended, if so, and it’s still Guest. I didn’t see any indication that he got more than your normal, everyday, or garden-variety, warning. Does the new warning system automatically suspend? Could there be a glitch in it? ---
**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/72 "2009-09-16T01:01:02Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Is he suspended? His title should show BANNED or Suspended, if so, and it’s still Guest. I didn’t see any indication that he got more than your normal, everyday, or garden-variety, warning. > > Does the new warning system automatically suspend? Could there be a glitch in it? A glitch? On this board? Please. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/73 "2009-09-16T01:01:25Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Does the new warning system automatically suspend? Could there be a glitch in it? That would explain everything. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/74 "2009-09-16T01:15:27Z")
I just sent **twixster** a PM asking if Dudley was inadvertently banned. I did it without making any requests to shove anything anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/75 "2009-09-16T01:24:11Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I just sent **twixster** a PM asking if Dudley was inadvertently banned. I did it without making any requests to shove anything anywhere. We’re all proud of your self-restraint. 😃 **Dudley** is showing a green light, for whatever that may be worth. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/76 "2009-09-16T01:27:06Z")
> [@Library\_Boy](#): > > … maybe something got messed up when recording the warning that has caused the problem. … > [@Frank](#): > > Is he suspended? His title should show BANNED or Suspended, if so, and it’s still Guest. I didn’t see any indication that he got more than your normal, everyday, or garden-variety, warning. > > Does the new warning system automatically suspend? Could there be a glitch in it? No. Banning/suspending is done through a separate procedure that takes place in a separate section of the site. **DG** is still an active member (guest) who, AFAIK, simply turned off incoming PMs soon after cussing me out. > [@hajario](#): > > I just sent **twixster** a PM asking if Dudley was inadvertently banned. I did it without making any requests to shove anything anywhere. Much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/77 "2009-09-16T01:31:29Z")
Yes, **dudley** has had a green light this whole time. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/78 "2009-09-16T01:34:58Z")
Okay, I went and checked in the super-secret back room of the mod wing, and his status is “awaiting email confirmation” – 😕 I’ll send up a bat signal and ask an admin to check into it. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/79 "2009-09-16T02:19:26Z")
Per **SkipMagic** : > [@](#): > > He changed his e-mail address to “[admin@sdmb.com](mailto:admin@sdmb.com)”. It’s not a legitimate address, and each mail address change puts you in purgatory until you can click on the link used in the verification e-mail. He needs to change it to a legitimate address; otherwise, he’s in violation of the registration agreement and may end up suspended as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dudleygarrett-youre-a-plag-i-arist-and-a-coward/510227/80 "2009-09-16T02:23:55Z")
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