# Duhbya wearing a unit citation he didn't earn?? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721 "2004-08-27T02:19:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/21 "2004-08-27T10:12:23Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I don’t know what fomented your hatred of kettles, but please try to be more sensitive of their feelings. They may not appreciate the comparison. So I am Kettlophobic too, huh? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/22 "2004-08-27T10:18:31Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > So I am Kettlophobic too, huh? 🙂 Yes, you are an (um, checking the forum) an insensitive fuck. How dare you defame the good name of kettles. I swear, **Brutus** , you keep this shit up and I’ll vote for Kerry. I mean, really, why pick on kettles? Quit being a dick. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/23 "2004-08-27T10:56:40Z")
Hell, he do whatever he wants with the damn kettles. Just keep him the hell away from my pot! I mean, a two pound bag of Oreos and a big-ass jar of peanut butter…gone! Sucker just sits there grinning and asks if I got any Moody Blues. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/24 "2004-08-27T11:20:30Z")
_Nights in White Satin_ happens to be one of the few karaoke songs I’ll do, thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/25 "2004-08-27T12:21:47Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > _Nights in White Satin_ happens to be one of the few karaoke songs I’ll do, thank you very much. That snapping sound you may have heard was my imagination breaking. Brutus… karaoke… Moody Blues… aaaaaaagh. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/26 "2004-08-27T12:28:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Praise the Leader! I’ve seen you post that phrase in several places. I dare you to post it in German next time. 😃😉 ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/27 "2004-08-27T12:40:06Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > Nights in White Satin happens to be one of the few karaoke songs I’ll do, thank you very much. There’s a line in that song that describes this year’s Presidential race; '\*Just what the truth is I can’t say anymore.\*’ ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/28 "2004-08-27T12:43:47Z")
No way! For the Ought-Four elections, the most apropos lyrics selection would be: > [@](#): > > …Cause I love you, > Yes, I love you, > Oh, how, I love you. > Oh, how, I love you. DAMN that sounds good once you get some white russians and jaeger-bombs in you! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/29 "2004-08-27T13:43:09Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > I’ve seen you post that phrase in several places. I dare you to post it in German next time. 😃😉 Wouldn’t work. Want the phrase to carry some inference to the deranged “Christians” who align themselves with the least generous, humane, and loving political aggregations in human history. Me and The Boss, we have no disagreements worthy of mention. _Ich bin ein Snide Mutterfokker!_ ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/30 "2004-08-27T13:44:30Z")
Heh, you said you were a ‘Mother-fucking Jelly Donut’. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/31 "2004-08-27T13:46:21Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > DAMN that sounds good once you get some white russians and jaeger-bombs in you! Anything sounds good once you get some white russians and jaeger-bombs in you. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/32 "2004-08-27T13:51:53Z")
_Nights in White Satin_ on karaoke? ? ? ? Omigawd, the Republicans are right - our culture is going to hell! To hell, I say! ! ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/33 "2004-08-27T15:33:44Z")
I’m second to none in my disdain for George W. But, from what I’m reading in that Democratic Underground thread, this particular issue _is_ IMHO much ado about nothing. It appears very likely that, best case, Bush was entitled to wear the medal at the time the picture was taken or, worst case, he or a superior were confused about some obscure regs that had confused many people. There’s a remote possibility that he was purposely trying to pad his uniform but if so a unit citation which doesn’t say anything about personal achievement seems to be a lame way to do it. > [@Liberal](#): > > If Barbara can find the wherewithall to loosen her left-wingnut a bit, she might put something on the site soon. “Left wingnut”? Are we now accusing Snopes of being part of the “liberal media”? 😕 > [@Brutus](#): > > Heh, you said you were a ‘Mother-fucking Jelly Donut’.- LOL 😛 ---
**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/34 "2004-08-27T23:03:09Z")
Looks as though Kerry is confused about what HE is authorized to wear: Plot thickens after checking records "The DD214 form, an official Defense Department document summarizing Kerry’s military career posted on [johnkerry.com](http://johnkerry.com), includes a “Silver Star with combat V.” But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, “Kerry’s record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a ‘combat V’ to anyone for a Silver Star.” " [http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html](http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/35 "2004-08-27T23:13:56Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > Heh, you said you were a ‘Mother-fucking Jelly Donut’. That one post (well, two posts - someone had to feed you the straight line) made this thread worth reading. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/36 "2004-08-27T23:16:51Z")
> [@hermann](#): > > Looks as though Kerry is confused about what HE is authorized to wear: > > Plot thickens after checking records > > "The DD214 form, an official Defense Department document summarizing Kerry’s military career posted on [johnkerry.com](http://johnkerry.com), includes a “Silver Star with combat V.” > > But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, “Kerry’s record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a ‘combat V’ to anyone for a Silver Star.” " > > [http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html](http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html) Did he actually wear it, or is it just that the E-3 Personnelman who typed up the DD214 made a mistake? Since the Bronze Star is accompanied by the “V”, he/she could have been assumed that the Silver Star was also. A non-issue, in anyone’s opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/37 "2004-08-27T23:20:37Z")
😃 Hey, Chefguy. What’s my opinion on Windsor knots? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/38 "2004-08-28T00:00:45Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > 😃 Hey, Chefguy. What’s my opinion on Windsor knots? You believe they’re coercive and tyrannical. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/39 "2004-08-28T00:09:47Z")
Bow tie. $5 says **liberal** is one of those bow tie guys. ---
**Author:** ![SpectBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@SpectBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpectBrain)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721/40 "2004-08-28T00:10:06Z")
As I recall from my time in the Air Force, you personally don’t earn an outstanding unit award, you’re entitled to wear it while assigned to an organization that’s won it. While I was with the 19th TASS I could wear an outstanding unit award with two oak leaf clusters, meaning they won it three times, but, I could not wear it after I left the unit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duhbya-wearing-a-unit-citation-he-didnt-earn/261721.md?page=3)