# DUI motorist plows car into crowd during Oklahoma State University homecoming parade. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 24, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655 "2015-10-24T20:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/41 "2015-10-25T06:22:43Z")
> [@jimbuff314](#): > > Hall of Fame runs E-W and Main St. in Stillwater runs N-S. The stadium is a couple of blocks west of the intersection. > > The article linked said Main has a gradual curve (it’s north of Hall of Fame.) It is a _very_ gradual ‘S’ curve, with clear open sight lines. This curve did not contribute to this tragedy. > > My SO got her Masters at OSU and we go there quite often to visit a good friend. It’s about 100 miles from where we live. Thanks, looks like I wrong about that then. I appreciate the information. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/42 "2015-10-25T06:36:32Z")
jimbuff314 are you familiar with Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers (where the suspect worked). Is that pretty close to the site? They are reporting she was fired earlier that morning and I wondered how far it was away. I see an IHop sign in the background of the accident scene. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/43 "2015-10-25T06:54:57Z")
Never mind. I found the place on google map. It’s just down the street. Looks like Main turns into N Boomer just past the curve. She was just minutes away. https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=36.1309226,-97.0622605&z=17&output=embed&dg=ntvb&q=Freddy%27s%2BFrozen%2BCustard%2B&%2BSteakburgers&cid=180365021779853376069946887827416016125 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/44 "2015-10-25T07:19:39Z")
I’m a bit uncertain about this site. Anyone know if [News - Heavy.com](http://heavy.com/news) is legit? They claim to have an interview with a coworker. This “may” be the source the other news sources are using in their reports that the suspect was fired that morning. I’m a bit skeptical but judge for yourself about this article and the anonymous coworker. > **[News Archives](https://heavy.com/news/)** > > Today’s top breaking news, delivered without bias or snark. > [@](#): > > The two work at a Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers, a franchised restaurant in Stillwater. She said that Chambers is wearing her work shirt in the accident and subsequent arrest photos. > > While the two weren’t friends, the co-worker said that Chambers “kept to herself, (and was) definitely not as loud and social as the others.” > > Asked if anything was different about Chambers lately, the co-worker said, “Nope, not at all. She worked this morning though and people said she ‘looked like she’s on drugs.'” Chambers was supposed to work from 9 a.m. until 3 p.m., but was sent home early “because they thought she was on drugs.” Chambers also worked until “at least midnight” on Friday night. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/45 "2015-10-26T00:44:09Z")
**update** New charges and [victims identified](http://kfor.com/2015/10/25/osu-homecoming-crash-victims-identified/). Its been a full day 1/2 and thankfully no further deaths. Hopefully the more seriously injured will pull through. [http://kfor.com/2015/10/25/police-suspect-is-deadly-homecoming-parade-crash-held-on-upgraded-2-nd-degree-murder-charges/](http://kfor.com/2015/10/25/police-suspect-is-deadly-homecoming-parade-crash-held-on-upgraded-2-nd-degree-murder-charges/) > [@](#): > > On Sunday morning, investigators, in consultation with the Payne County District Attorney’s office, elected to file an affidavit and hold Chambers on four counts of second degree murder. A conviction for murder in the second degree has a sentence of ten years to life imprisonment for each count. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/46 "2015-10-26T00:54:41Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m posting updates as the story develops. Why, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/47 "2015-10-26T01:08:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Why, exactly? So people know how the story evolves. It’s rude to just start a thread and leave it hanging. Like buying a book with the last thirty pages torn out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/48 "2015-10-26T01:21:08Z")
You know, if people can read or post here, they can also get to the websites of Google News, CNN, NBC, the Oklahoma newspapers or any of a thousand other actual news sources. So I don’t see the point of starting and maintaining threads to update people here on breaking news stories. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/49 "2015-10-26T01:25:40Z")
Give it up, folks. Our friend **aceplace57** is a Google Alert in human form. He’s started over 1,000 threads in the past three years, averaging better than a thread a day, and a significant number of them are little more than recreational outrage or hand-wringing over whatever the latest scandalous news story happens to be. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/50 "2015-10-26T01:34:38Z")
The last link I posted answered the biggest issue that came up in this thread. Potential punishment. She’s facing up to 10 years for each death. More than enough to keep her off the streets for most of the remainder of her life. I felt it was worth noting. Major updates to news stories can often spark fresh discussion. Thats the point of posting them. Its no different than real life. I mentioned the parade crash to friends yesterday. We talked about it again this morning at church. We’ll probably discuss it tomorrow at work. Its a local story to us. We have friends and family in Oklahoma. We care deeply about these people and what they are going through. I agree this thread has run its course. Unless something really startling develops and I don’t expect that it will. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/51 "2015-10-26T02:13:30Z")
Did the subject of capital punishment come up at church? Did anyone throw up a hand and say, WWJD? Did anyone at church forgive the driver? How’d that go at church? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/52 "2015-10-26T02:47:34Z")
Nothing any different than any other tragedy. Our pastor lead a short prayer for the victims and their families. I talked with groups of friends in the parking lot before and after services. Nothing out of the ordinary. Concern for the people recovering and how the families are coping. The same type of conversation often seen here after tragedies. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/53 "2015-10-26T03:33:51Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Give it up, folks. Our friend **aceplace57** is a Google Alert in human form. > > He’s started over 1,000 threads in the past three years, averaging better than a thread a day, and a significant number of them are little more than recreational outrage or hand-wringing over whatever the latest scandalous news story happens to be. So what? He’s as entitled as anyone else to post about things he’s interested in or thinks others might be interested in, and given that he always gets responses it’s obvious the things he posts are of interest to others. I’d suggest that if you don’t want to read what he has to say that you simply stop opening his threads. I for one often enjoy reading them and I’d hate to see him cut back because a guy who can rarely go more than three posts without insulting or criticising someone decides to complain about his threads. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/54 "2015-10-26T03:55:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > SI’d suggest that if you don’t want to read what he has to say that you simply stop opening his threads. I’m sure you can imagine how much i value your input on this issue. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/55 "2015-10-26T04:18:29Z")
> [@](#): > > “I don’t believe right now that she was intoxicated,” attorney Tony Coleman said Sunday afternoon, speaking to The Oklahoman newspaper. “I have deep concerns about her competency at this point. I’m not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but I can tell you she’s suffering from mental illness.” > > While Coleman said during a press conference later Sunday that he was waiting for toxicology reports before ruling out drug use by Chambers, he was certain that she had not been drinking. He met with his client for an hour after her arrest on Saturday, and said he came away convinced that Chambers showed no signs of alcohol intoxication. > > However, the attorney said he had reason to believe that Adacia Chambers may have experienced a diabetic episode that could also have contributed to her losing control of her vehicle and plowing through the OSU homecoming crowd. > **[OSU Crash Driver Adacia Chambers Mentally Ill, Possibly Diabetic — But Not...](https://www.inquisitr.com/2519877/osu-crash-driver-adacia-chambers)** > > Adacia Chambers, the driver accused of killing four in a horrifying crash at the Oklahoma State University (OSU) Homscoming Parade on Saturday, was not driving drunk as police initially alleged alleged, but may suffer from other serious health... ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/56 "2015-10-26T04:27:30Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I’m sure you can imagine how much i value your input on this issue. Certainly. About as much as I’d suggest **aceplace57** value yours. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/57 "2015-10-26T04:33:41Z")
As an aside - What is it with this sort of construction? > [@](#): > > The mother of toddler Nash Lucas, an OSU student, was also injured when a Hyundai Electra **allegedly driven by Adacia Chambers** struck a parked police motorcycle then careened into the homecoming parade crowd, causing panic and sending bodies flying. She was allegedly drunk, or had allegedly been fired, or was allegedly upset - But wasn’t she the driver? Isn’t that a factual statement ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/58 "2015-10-26T05:43:20Z")
:dubious: Lawyer she’s she’s crazy. Her boss praises her. Man, talk about diametrically opposing views. Interesting that boss man doesn’t address why she was sent home. The shift had barely started. > [@](#): > > Coleman said that his previous experience representing mentally ill offenders caused him to believe that Chambers herself was suffering from some form of psychological disorder. > > “I was not satisfied that the person I met with was a competent, normally functioning individual,” Coleman said. “I just wasn’t.” > [@](#): > > But the restaurant’s owner, Mark Thomspon, told The Stillwater News Press that Chambers was, in fact, in good standing at her job. > > “She was always on time. She is a pleasant person. I have nothing to say about her that isn’t good. She has been an excellent employee,” Thompson told the paper. “She didn’t appear to be under the influence (when she left)." ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/59 "2015-10-26T05:56:27Z")
And yet there were other reports saying she was supposed to work from 9 to 3 that day but was fired because she seemed to be on drugs. I have no idea what a diabetic episode is like, but since her lawyer threw it out I assume she’s really a diabetic (officers of the court can’t just blatantly lie about such things, can they?). So I’m wondering if her behavior that morning at work was actually due to some sort of diabetic episode, and whether the crash perhaps was also. I notice my earlier link to her Facebook page no longer works as her page has been taken offline, but in almost every one of the few photos on it she appears to be a deeply unhappy person. Despite the carnage I find myself hoping that there’s some sort of explanation that lets her off the hook. From what little is known so far she doesn’t seem to have been a bad person. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dui-motorist-plows-car-into-crowd-during-oklahoma-state-university-homecoming-parade/735655/60 "2015-10-26T11:14:21Z")
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