# Duke gets clobbered **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 30, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543 "2011-11-30T07:39:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/21 "2011-12-02T22:50:00Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > You’re demonstrating some pretty poor sportsmanship yourself. So, yeah, it is futile for you to attempt to convince others of the concept of good sportsmanship. > [@Bootis](#): > > No, the moral elitism I was referring to was declaring people to be a “morally deformed hate squad” that the world needs less of, based on nothing more than a handful of comments stating only that they hate a college basketball team. . > [@Bootis](#): > > Looking back at the comments in this thread, there isn’t even one comment that one could reasonably be considered “vicious”. > > The OP says he loathes the Blue Devils. > > The next guy calls them Puke and hates both teams, but still compliments the team he dislikes more > > One guy says its a reloading year for Duke, but they’ll still be good, _\_ > > One says Austin Rivers is good, one says hes glad Duke won’t have an undefeated season, _\_ > > and one jokes the could be called the Deacon Blues. _\_ > > As far as morally deformed hate squads go, this one’s about as good as Duke was against Ohio State. The two members above display complete inablility to appreciate moral and intellectual distinctions. Heeeeyyy Doooodes! It’s all, um, like the, you know, ah er, the same thing! I can scarcely believe they are out of HS yet, although nothing would suprise me about the depths to which our education system has sunk, and the substandard product it keeps churning out. They desperately need guidance, but someone else will have to fill that role, because I am not patient enough to put up with any more of their HS shit. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/22 "2011-12-02T23:24:13Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > The two members above display complete inablility to appreciate moral > and intellectual distinctions. Heeeeyyy Doooodes! It’s all, um, like the, > you know, ah er, the same thing! > > I can scarcely believe they are out of HS yet, although nothing would suprise > me about the depths to which our education system has sunk, and the > substandard product it keeps churning out. > > They desperately need guidance, but someone else will have to fill that role, > because I am not patient enough to put up with any more of their HS shit. Ignatius G. Reilly would be proud ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/23 "2011-12-02T23:40:19Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > I don’t care what you believe. > > I did not act like this 1967-71, and I did not see anyone else act like it. The worst > I ever saw or heard 1967-71 was “Dook”. > > BTW I limited my objection to the word “hate”; “loathe” is close enough, but “puke” > is not, and hoping a rival loses is not. > > While in college I myself did not care if Duke won or lost as long as we beat them. > I only developed a genuine affection for the team during their great run to the F4 > in 1978. I was assisted in this change of attitude by a then-recent aquaintance, a > Duke graduate and fan, who wholeheartedly rooted for us in 1976-77. He even went > to Atlanta for that year’s F4 (where we lost in the championship game to Marquette) > to try to wrangle tickets and watch in person. The world needs more people like > him and less people like the morally deformed hate squad who showed up for thread. I fucking hate Duke since I am a Kentucky fan because Christian Laettner exists ([http://www.bestads.tv/view/2788/vitamin-water-christian-laettner-and-rick-pitino/](http://www.bestads.tv/view/2788/vitamin-water-christian-laettner-and-rick-pitino/)). I will NEVER stop hating Duke. That said, there’s “sports hate” and “actual hate” in my mind, and there’s a HUGE difference. I actually really respect Coach K (USMA grad/player/coach) but despise his team. Why the moral outrage on your part? Its fucking ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/24 "2011-12-03T00:13:06Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I fucking hate Duke since I am a Kentucky fan because Christian Laettner exists ([http://www.bestads.tv/view/2788/vitamin-water-christian-laettner-and-rick-pitino/](http://www.bestads.tv/view/2788/vitamin-water-christian-laettner-and-rick-pitino/)). I will NEVER stop hating Duke. That said, there’s “sports hate” and “actual hate” in my mind, and there’s a HUGE difference. > > I actually really respect Coach K (USMA grad/player/coach) but despise his team. Why the moral outrage on your part? Its fucking ridiculous. The fact that you take pride in wearing the word “hate” on your chest IS a moral failure. What the fuck is wrong with you that you must hate someone who beats you in a big game? Your loss to Duke, coming as it did in mere regional play, was less traumatic than the numerous losses suffered by my team for the championship, against teams who I would dearly love to have beaten, but who I bore no grudge against then and to this day. You will do well to follow that example. And BTW being a Kentucky fan you should know of Wildcat F4 wins over Duke in the 1966 F4 semis, and 1978 finals. Even if those were before your time you should realize that odds favor payback is the long run, and you may as well learn to live with it, because you did probably not see the last of it in 1992. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/25 "2011-12-03T01:52:43Z")
**Colonial** , you’re making this oddly personal. Let’s keep it about the game, the teams and the _content_ of the posts. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/26 "2011-12-03T02:08:15Z")
> [@unwashed\_brain](#): > > **Colonial** , you’re making this oddly personal. Let’s keep it about the game, the teams and the _content_ of the posts. _I_ am making it personal? _Me_? This other guy comes along and says “I fucking hate Duke” and “I will NEVER stop hating Duke” and you tell _me I_ am the personal one? There’s a hole in the ground somewhere where you have lost a vital part of your anatomy. You need to go look for it. Now. I see this thread has turned into flypaper for, well, for intellectual and emotional flies. I guess my best move is to bow out again, this time for good. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/27 "2011-12-03T02:12:40Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > The fact that you take pride in wearing the word “hate” on your chest > IS a moral failure. I don’t “take pride” in hating Duke…I just hate their team. I am also a Bengals fan and hate the Steelers with a fucking passion that defies reason (again with the “sports hate” definition)…what’s the fucking difference? > [@colonial](#): > > Your loss to Duke, coming as it did in mere regional play, was less traumatic > than the numerous losses suffered by my team Oh yeah, which is why the game between UK and Duke in 1992 is considered by so many as “the best basketball game ever played”…when I respectfully disagree with that assertion…maybe the WORST game ever…you’re something else dude. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/28 "2011-12-03T02:16:51Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > I don’t care what you believe. > > I did not act like this 1967-71, and I did not see anyone else act like it. The worst > I ever saw or heard 1967-71 was “Dook”. > > BTW I limited my objection to the word “hate”; “loathe” is close enough, but “puke” > is not, and hoping a rival loses is not. U.S. Murder rate per 100,000 people 1971, 8.6 U.S. Murder rate per 100,000 people 2010, 4.8 Maybe your “moral failure” is being a little too focused on words and not actions. ---
**Author:** ![Sundrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sundrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sundrop)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/29 "2011-12-03T02:37:32Z")
I have two favorite teams. The UNC Tar Heels and whoever is playing dook. I love seeing them lose. And the idea that the hatred for dook, at least from Tar Heels, goes back far longer than 40 years. Hell, the brawl between Larry Brown and Art Heyman was the early 60s. Add in events like Montross, Bloody Montross, and the Gerald “Thug” Henderson’s elbow to Tyler Hansbrough’s nose and there is little surprise that the hatred exists. Part of the fun is that sports hate. Will Blythe even wrote a book about it; “To Hate Like This Is To Be Happy Forever.” I really recommend those interested in the rivalry read that book. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/30 "2011-12-03T03:11:53Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > _I_ am making it personal? _Me_? > > This other guy comes along and says “I fucking hate Duke” and “I will NEVER stop hating Duke” > and you tell _me I_ am the personal one? Are you Duke? if the answer is no, which it is, then it isn’t personal. Nobody ever said anything bad about you, personally. > [@colonial](#): > > There’s a hole in the ground somewhere where you have lost a vital part of your anatomy. > You need to go look for it. Now. This is another instance you making it oddly personal. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/31 "2011-12-03T03:40:23Z")
I’m siding with colonial here. Why care about when another team wins or loses when they’re not playing you? My cavs just got shellacked by vt at home. Shut out. Paid $150 for tickets and i was pretty irked. However i woudnt say im pissed. I wouldnt even say i hate tech. It’s sad, it’s a bummer, it may be even flat out demoralizing but there is no hate, loathing, or any other auch fervor. I agree that team fanaticism is to an extend some sort of emotional failing. However, modern duke fans are probably just as guilty of this than others. In fact, the only more deplorable fans are Maryland fans. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543/32 "2011-12-03T08:02:47Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > The two members above display complete inablility to appreciate moral > and intellectual distinctions. Heeeeyyy Doooodes! It’s all, um, like the, > you know, ah er, the same thing! > > I can scarcely believe they are out of HS yet, although nothing would suprise > me about the depths to which our education system has sunk, and the > substandard product it keeps churning out. > > They desperately need guidance, but someone else will have to fill that role, > because I am not patient enough to put up with any more of their HS shit. Ah, just back from the AOL teen chat rooms I see. Well, since your poor sportsmanship in this thread has been well established, the only issue is if it rises to the level of a felony, or is merely morally reprehensible. I’m checking the statutes now. Gaudere’s Law: You lament the quality of an educational system while misspelling “inability” and “surprise.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-gets-clobbered/604543.md?page=1)