# Duke Nukem Forever is DONE bitches! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 21, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454 "2011-01-21T15:53:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/41 "2011-01-23T16:20:40Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Heh, I remember that PA strip. 😛 > > There’s been something of a consensus that DNF is going to have to do no less than cure cancer in order to receive reasonable reviews at this point. And that is completely removed from the games own pros or cons. It’s reputation and infamy has completely surpassed any sense of bias at this point. It’s more important to release a title with the “DNF” name slapped on it than to worry about it’s quality. > > This game could completely re-invent FPS standards and people are going to be chomping at the bit to headline a review with “not worth the wait.” Duke Nukem Forever could be the best shooter of all time but it’s doomed to be a footnote in the industry. I don’t entirely disagree, but I do think that a lot of reviewers are going to be aware of this bias and make an honest effort to judge the game on its own merits. After all, it isn’t Gearbox’s fault that 3D Realms had a very strange development culture. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/42 "2011-01-23T18:45:52Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Even if it did all that _and_ provided everyone with a flying car, robot butler, and The Ultimate Answer To Life, The Universe, & Everything (with Bonus Ultimate Question) it’s still going to end up disappointing people, I suspect. Based on the trailer, I believe they’ll be trying to distract players and reviewers from the absence of flying cars, robot butlers and cancer cure with lots and lots of tits & ass (and apparently cock, too). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/43 "2011-01-23T18:52:22Z")
Now we can move on to true greatness: Shadow Warrior 2. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/44 "2011-01-23T19:21:25Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Seems like a lot of people don’t understand that everyone knows the game looks terrible and dated; you’re supposed to play along anyway to make the world a more magical place, like Santa Claus or the McRib. I tried. It just made me feel more sad and pathetic than the two years I spent doing nothing but play WoW. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Now we can move on to true greatness: Shadow Warrior 2. But THIS I can get behind. Shadow Warrior was brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/45 "2011-01-23T22:46:14Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The trailer doesn’t impress me. It’s a lot of the same old same old in grey, brown and muzzle flash; a game that should be SUPER colourful, more like Crysis than Quake, is yet another washed out FPS. And yeah, the voice is shitty. > > It’d be amusing enough to give it a shot if it’s on for $9.99 on Steam, I guess. Meh. If it looks just OK, I’m happy. I’m looking for fun & humor, Duke-style. The voice is Duke, so if it’s shitty, Duke’s shitty. Might not be your thing, no matter how good, bad, or awesome it is. No way am I paying more than $29.99 for this. I bought Daikatana for that much, and I’m not gonna throw away more than that on another troubled game franchise. I’ll probably wait until it’s $14.99 or less on Steam. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/46 "2011-01-23T22:47:23Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Now we can move on to true greatness: Shadow Warrior 2. You want to wash Wang, or watch Wang wash Wang? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/47 "2011-01-23T23:45:12Z")
Duke? I’ll believe it when I see it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/48 "2011-01-23T23:46:40Z")
I have no idea why people are expressing all the skepticism. It’s an entirely different company. They bought the project specifically to finish it up and release it. They set a hard date. I don’t know if you’re trying to be funny or what. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/49 "2011-01-24T00:00:50Z")
That it’s Gearbox seems like the best reason of all to be skeptical, given their atrocious release record. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/50 "2011-01-24T00:07:47Z")
Doesn’t gearbox have a record for releasing games on schedule, regardless of whether they’re finished or not? ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/51 "2011-01-24T00:33:15Z")
Sorry, I thought you meant skeptical of quality. Being skeptical of the release is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/52 "2011-01-24T00:43:02Z")
Yeah, I’m referring to the “oh yeah we’ve heard this before _rolleyes_” type commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/53 "2011-01-24T01:10:49Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I have no idea why people are expressing all the skepticism. It’s an entirely different company. They bought the project specifically to finish it up and release it. They set a hard date. I don’t know if you’re trying to be funny or what. Well, for myself, the skepticism is based on two things: 1. The game has been in development since the 1990s and has become so famously associated with “Vapourware” that it’s almost impossible to shake the connotation. _Duke Nukem Forever_ has had quite bit of promotional material released over the years but almost no concrete gameplay details, and even now that’s true- for a game that’s supposed to be out in a little over three months, there’s virtually no concrete “Here’s what’s actually in the game” stuff, at least not that I’ve seen from any source I’d consider “reliable” or “trustworthy”. 2. There’s surprisingly little “Buzz” about it, but I suspect that’s got more to do with the fact that the game’s target market has grown up and moved on, and the market they’re going to be marketing to now was still in nappies (or kindergarten) when the first game came out. Even so, from a Gaming perspective, the actual, definite release of _Duke Nukem Forever_ should be An Event Of Epic Proportions- and so far the collective reaction from all my gaming friends has been “Meh” or “Really? I wondered when they were going to get around to that.” ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/54 "2011-01-24T02:24:24Z")
Now that Spore and Duke Nukem: Forever are out, what will be the new standard in vaporware? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/55 "2011-01-24T04:06:45Z")
Fable III for the PC. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/56 "2011-01-24T04:21:37Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > 1. The game has been in development since the 1990s and has become so famously associated with “Vapourware” that it’s almost impossible to shake the connotation. _Duke Nukem Forever_ has had quite bit of promotional material released over the years but almost no concrete gameplay details, and even now that’s true- for a game that’s supposed to be out in a little over three months, there’s virtually no concrete “Here’s what’s actually in the game” stuff, at least not that I’ve seen from any source I’d consider “reliable” or “trustworthy”. When the game debuted at PAX last year, the entire convention was given plenty of hands-on time. Everyone and their grandmother (quite literally) wrote a preview. > [@](#): > > 1. There’s surprisingly little “Buzz” about it, but I suspect that’s got more to do with the fact that the game’s target market has grown up and moved on, and the market they’re going to be marketing to now was still in nappies (or kindergarten) when the first game came out. Even so, from a Gaming perspective, the actual, definite release of _Duke Nukem Forever_ should be An Event Of Epic Proportions- and so far the collective reaction from all my gaming friends has been “Meh” or “Really? I wondered when they were going to get around to that.” No buzz? Are you nuts? This game has gotten 55 posts in The Game Room. We can’t agree on what games are worth playing to save our lives, but a thread on DNF has gone to a second page. That’s buzz baby. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/57 "2011-01-24T04:48:38Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > When the game debuted at PAX last year, the entire convention was given plenty of hands-on time. Everyone and their grandmother (quite literally) wrote a preview. > > No buzz? Are you nuts? This game has gotten 55 posts in The Game Room. We can’t agree on what games are worth playing to save our lives, but a thread on DNF has gone to a second page. That’s buzz baby. I don’t think the Dope is a good barometer of video gaming. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/58 "2011-01-24T04:54:30Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > 55 posts in The Game Room. We can’t agree on what games are worth playing to save our lives, but a thread on DNF has gone to a second page. That’s buzz baby. But it’s 55 posts about the game’s ridiculous history. Nobody’s expressed any excitement about the game except in a “I hope it’s got a sense of humour” sense. The game looks pretty mediocre, as a game, from what we presently know about it. So it’s interesting that it looks like it will finally come out, but I’m not paying full price for the game advertised in that trailer, if I ever buy it at all, and most of the PC gaming market won’t either. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/59 "2011-01-24T05:02:25Z")
The PC gaming market are probably going to be the only ones who buy it, which is what makes Gearbox handling it all the more amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454/60 "2011-01-24T05:02:34Z")
It was nearly finished when the plug was pulled, then Gearbox acquired it. I can’t speak for the quality, but I’m confident we’ll see it in May. . .unless Gearbox just has a massively twisted sense of humor. I’ve played Borderlands, so I can’t completely discount that! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/duke-nukem-forever-is-done-bitches/568454.md?page=4)