# Dukes of Hazard meet their match
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted
**Created:** [September 2, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017 "2021-09-02T22:12:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/21 "2021-09-03T16:19:32Z")
> [@Asuka](#):
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> I don’t get why people are jumping for joy because an original General Lee car was crushed by a tree. Do you guys dance when war museums catch fire or a vintage WW2 aircraft crashes at an air show too?
No, just when symbols of a crappy, low-brow TV show get smushed.
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### Author:  [@thdudescar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thdudescar)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/22 "2021-09-03T17:22:25Z")
> **[Kenny Wayne Shepherd’s Blues Awards Nomination Rescinded Over ‘Dukes’...](https://variety.com/2021/music/news/kenny-wayne-shepherd-confederate-flag-blues-awards-nomination-rescinded-1234933816/)**
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> UPDATED: Kenny Wayne Shepherd is no longer a contender for this year’s Blues Music Awards, due to controversy over his “Dukes of Hazzard” replica car and its Confederate flag imag…
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/23 "2021-09-03T17:34:02Z")
When Muddy Waters’ daughter says she’s offended by a confederate flag, I’m on her side.
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### Author:  [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/24 "2021-09-03T18:03:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> > [@Asuka](#):
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> > It’s not like the car was driving around on its own free will running minorities over.
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> Well, yeah, because there weren’t any on the show. Hazzard was a sundown community.
There were plenty of black actors on the show:
Black actors on _The Dukes of Hazzard_ , seasons 3-7:
Ji-Tu Cumbuka, “Opening Night at the Boar’s Nest”
Kevin Peter Hall, “Opening Night at the Boar’s Nest”
Al White (one of the “jive dudes” in _Airplane!_ ),
“Cale Yarborough Comes to Hazzard”
Hal Williams, “Cooter’s Confession”
Herb Jefferson Jr., “Undercover Dukes”
Steven Williams, “High Flyin’ Dukes”
Wally Taylor, “A Boy’s Best Friend”
John Dewey Carter, “Brotherly Love”
Ella Mae Brown, “Vance’s Lady”
Ernie Hudson, “Dear Diary”
James Reynolds, “Good Neighbors, Duke”
Woody Strode, “The Great Santa Claus Chase”
Stolen from this thread where apparently some Dopers who are black enjoyed the show:
> [@Black kids of the 80's; Did you watch "The Dukes of Hazzard"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-kids-of-the-80s-did-you-watch-the-dukes-of-hazzard/187172):
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> (white male here) I remember as a kid this used to be one of my favorite shows. However at the same time I was too young to understand what that rebel flag painted on top of their car was all about. So I was just wondering if black children watched this show and if they did; did you understand what that flag ment to alot of black people? From what I remember about the show I don’t recall them ever saying or doing anything deragatory towards black folks. (I could be wrong though)
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/25 "2021-09-03T18:35:37Z")
And did any of them stay for more than one episode?
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/26 "2021-09-03T18:41:30Z")
> [@Asuka](#):
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> I don’t get why people are jumping for joy because an original General Lee car was crushed by a tree. Do you guys dance when war museums catch fire or a vintage WW2 aircraft crashes at an air show too?
I see a distinction between artifacts of real history and a prop from a TV show.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/27 "2021-09-03T18:50:03Z")
And seriously, if a confederate historical museum got hit by a tornado that was part of a hurricane, and then it flooded and everything inside was destroyed, it’s champagne time.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/28 "2021-09-03T19:51:03Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> And seriously, if a confederate historical museum got hit by a tornado that was part of a hurricane, and then it flooded and everything inside was destroyed, it’s champagne time.
This I disagree with. Keeping a connection with our history is important. But there’s a difference between remembering our past and celebrating the wrong ideas we had in the past.
On the other hand, I would break out the champagne if the feature on this message board that automatically edits your posts was destroyed in a flood.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/29 "2021-09-03T20:05:39Z")
I wish it happened automatically! 😀
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### Author:  [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/30 "2021-09-04T13:21:54Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Donations? This is a guy with a fairly long list of TV and movie credits, as well as a long list of music. He’s rich; certainly compared to the average resident of Louisiana, most of whom don’t have publicists.
I searched “john schneider net worth” & got conflicting information. Some sites say $2 million, which sounds low to me considering his extensive credits (listed above). Other sites say $200,000, which is not enough to retire on for a person of his age (61).
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/31 "2021-09-04T13:27:28Z")
$200,000 just might be enough to account for the value of his collection of General Lees (which are probably worth more to a collector than any old random '79 Dodge Charger). But surely he owns assets other than those.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike1)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/32 "2021-09-04T13:58:22Z")
Well, if a tree fell on the 1928 Porter from “My Mother the Car,” THEN I would be sad.
As far as I recall, it did not bear any nationalistic or racist symbols.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike1)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/33 "2021-09-04T13:59:52Z")
Also, just because somebody made a bunch of money a long time ago doesn’t man they still have it. Not all of us are shrewd investors. Some of us just use it to buy stuff, and eventually it runs out.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/34 "2021-09-04T15:06:36Z")
> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > Donations? This is a guy with a fairly long list of TV and movie credits, as well as a long list of music. He’s rich; certainly compared to the average resident of Louisiana, most of whom don’t have publicists.
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> I searched “john schneider net worth” & got conflicting information. Some sites say $2 million, which sounds low to me considering his extensive credits (listed above). Other sites say $200,000, which is not enough to retire on for a person of his age (61).
Those celebrity net worth sites aren’t worth much of anything. Sure, if you research a particular celebrity extensively, you might be able to find public records of real estate owned by them, if they own them in their own name. But I’m not sure if the public records will record mortgages and also, lots of people hide real estate ownerships through things like LLCs.
But some of those sites list many celebrities, and I think the data is just bullshit.
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### Author:  [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/35 "2021-09-04T16:22:19Z")
> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> Other sites say $200,000, which is not enough to retire on for a person of his age (61).
That seems low, even if he did recklessly waste his money on hookers, blow, and General Lees.
Even my house is worth more than that.
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/36 "2021-09-04T18:41:02Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> That seems
I suspect a misplaced decimal point, or missing zero at the end.
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### Author:  [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/37 "2021-09-04T18:58:29Z")
A friend of mine dislikes the show because there weren’t that many Dodge Chargers built that year, and the show went through a whole lot of them with the stunts.
I admit I enjoyed the show because, like @BigT, I weirdly didn’t twig that “General Lee” referred to Robert E. Lee. I wasn’t even paying attention to the flag on the roof. I was enjoying the scenery and the “foil the schemes of the corrupt authorities” theme.
Also, I really enjoy watching cars go fast. I enjoy being in a car going fast even more, but that doesn’t happen much, alas.
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### Author:  [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/38 "2021-09-04T22:08:58Z")
I’d put three vehicles in a row:
Jed Clampett’s 1921 Olds, from when rural Americans were on the margins. To the West Coast they’d rolled in in jalopies that Jed’s had to be a callback to. To the urban Easterners they were Appalachian Pappy Yokums/Snuffy Smiths sleeping on the porch of a falling down shack.
The Hazzard’s Charger. The 70s were heavy with 50’s nostalgia, and rockabilly moonshine runners would not be left out. The rebelliousness was aimed at the government that had lied about Vietnam, and forced truckers to follow traffic laws; not especially against Civil Rights, Blacks and Mexicans. These good old boys could deny any connection to their KKK forebears of only 15 years earlier because… they had long hair. Ronald Reagan and Jerry Falwell were telling rural America that they were the _real_ Americans. Family farms and the small towns that supported them were about to be wiped out by corporate factory farms.
A humongous Ford F159 in outlaw black, rarely used to haul anything besides groceries. Payments and insurance eat up a larger percent of the family income than ever before in history, contributing to historic lows in personal savings. Nonetheless, a few more dollars are spent to install a “coal-roller” device, and equally aggressive bumper stickers.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/39 "2021-09-04T22:19:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> And did any of them stay for more than one episode?
Not mentioned in that list is [Don Pedro Colley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Pedro_Colley), who had the recurring role of Sheriff Little. To be fair, he was in Chickasaw County rather than Hazzard.
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### Author:  [@Somethingwitty1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Somethingwitty1)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dukes-of-hazard-meet-their-match/950017/40 "2021-09-05T02:00:42Z")
If they ever do a reboot, they could use this Charger.
> **[interesting twist on the Dukes Charger, a "General Grant" for the union states](http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2018/07/interesting-twist-on-dukes-charger.html)**
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> https://www.facebook.com/groups/996045710517424/permalink/1612319102223412/ https://swarfs.tumblr.com/image/176388863619
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