# Dumb Americans **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2000, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664 "2000-03-26T14:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/41 "2000-03-28T13:50:00Z")
weren’t you all over there, too, android? ---
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/42 "2000-03-28T14:04:00Z")
If we’re talking about Vietnam, not in any great capacity, no. ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/43 "2000-03-28T15:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by KarmaComa: > \*\* I don’t know where these people get the idea (I’ve seen it a few times here) that everyone kisses ass to the states because they are afraid of being invaded by some nebulous warmongering nation of maniacs. Can you come up with any evidence, heresay, or even pseudo-logic to base this statement on?\*\* Ok I am trying to follow Ed’s rules here and keep a civil tongue…and instead of name calling I will just type r e a l s l o w l y. You want ME to present evidence that the world is full of dictators and little men like Kaddfy and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein ,Chile’s Pinochet, and Cuba’s Castro who would gladly nuke or invade ANY country if they had the opportunity or resoures? You need evidence that if we had not faced down the Russians in 61’ when they were attempting to load Cuba up with ICBM missiles both American and Canada wouldn’t be incinerated by now? People like Kruschev ( who said we will bury you at a UN meeting) Benito Mussolini and Hitler where REAL people not storybook characters. They may be dead but there are plenty to take their places. I am not going to elaborate on world politics here Karma…sufficed to say why not pick up a newspaper or history book once in a while you will be in a much better position to debate. ## And yes I bit on this thread but not because I am an idiot as you intimated but because as corny as it may sound I happen to love my country and I will probably always take up for it no matter how ignorant or troll like the attacker is. Eh? Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/44 "2000-03-28T15:50:00Z")
So, aha, have your rants switched specifically from England/the UK to Canada now, or does it apply to any non-American? ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/45 "2000-03-28T15:56:00Z")
Sorry Android I was assuming that Karma ( maybe incorrectly from another post)is from Canada. No offense intended to my canuck friends. 🙂 * * * Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/46 "2000-03-28T15:59:00Z")
aha, You haven’t answered the question. You stated explicitly that the UK > [@](#): > > sniffs at the pant legs of the US like checkers the dog because it knows that we got the military might to keep their little powdered asses from being overrun by any third rate banana republic that gets the urge. KarmaComa called you on it and you responded by saying that, hey, the world is full of dictators who are just itching to invade anything they can get their hands on. You included two examples (Pinochet and Castro) of dictators who have never displayed any expansionist tendencies. You also made the baseless assertion that the Soviet Union would have nuked the US and Canada if it had succeeded in establishing missile bases in Cuba. Maybe you would care to address the question you were asked, rather than the one you wanted to answer: From which third-rate banana republic does the UK fear invasion? You would also do yourself a favour if you learned to distinguish between taking up for your own country and slagging off somebody elses. As it is, you just make yourself look like a narrow-minded, parochial buffoon. ---
**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/47 "2000-03-28T16:13:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by aha: > Sorry Android I was assuming that Karma ( maybe incorrectly from another post)is from Canada. No offense intended to my canuck friends. 🙂 I’m assuming Karma is Canadian too. I’m not sure how this is relevant. I’d have thought that by now, people would have seen how pointless it is to direct a series of insults against a country, such as you did against mine (the UK) earlier in this thread. What was your point? The USA is the greatest country in the world and all others suck? Great stuff. Really. Keep it up. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/48 "2000-03-28T16:45:00Z")
as silly as this thread is, i would still like to comment on one thing: > [@](#): > > I remember Thor, a guy from iceland talked like this too. But the consensus was the US could blow Iceland to smithscreens. Which is true. his name was thorleifur, not thor. please be kind to thor and dont attribute him to the thor-whatsmathingy from iceland. i belive thor said it best in [intellegent life in iceland](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000038.html): > [@](#): > > I just wanted to point out to all of the Thorleifur bashers that I am no tthe Icelandic gent who has been causing all of this flaming. I am from Colorado and love the good ole U S of A. I have been getting a few flames here and there from folks who confuse me and Thorleifur. > Man, did I pick the wrong name! oh…yeah! americans in general are stupid…(i cant allow myself to go out of character) bj0rn - just trying to be helpful ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/49 "2000-03-28T17:06:00Z")
TomH: > [@](#): > > KarmaComa called you on it and you responded by saying that, hey, the world is full of dictators who are just itching to invade anything they can get their hands on. Yeah that Karma really knows how to nail a debater. You two together would really be a force to be reckoned with. And I am not going to explain world politics to you either TomH. If you don’t get it then you don’t get it. > [@](#): > > You also made the baseless assertion that the Soviet Union would have nuked the US and Canada if it had succeeded in establishing missile bases in Cuba. Baseless to whom? You? How about some plain old thinking here Tom…What in the fuck do you suppose they were going to do with those missiles once they got them in Cuba? Polish them? Do you reckon that maybe having nuclear weapons 90 miles off shore from the most powerful nation in the world might be a step towards world domination? I suppose not in your evidently naïve existence. > [@](#): > > From The World Book Scot Fetzer Co. 1997 > The Cuban missile crisis occurred in October 1962. US learned that the Soviet Union had secretly installed missiles in Cuba. The missiles could have been used to launch nuclear attacks on American and other North American cities. This crisis was one of the most serious incidents of the cold war. Most experts believe that the missile crisis brought the US and Soviet Union to the brink of nuclear war. > [@](#): > > As it is, you just make yourself look like a narrow-minded, parochial buffoon. ## Since it is obviously your intent to personally insult… let me join in the fray, however rather than use pretentious and 6 bit words like parochial and buffoon … I will just say fuck you Tommyboy and if you have any fat cousins fuck them too. Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/50 "2000-03-28T17:18:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by android209: > \*\* I’m assuming Karma is Canadian too. I’m not sure how this is relevant. > I’d have thought that by now, people would have seen how pointless it is to direct a series of insults against a country, such as you did against mine (the UK) earlier in this thread. What was your point? The USA is the greatest country in the world and all others suck? Great stuff. Really. Keep it up. > > \*\* Android I suspected that the original troll brit was from england and I was merely insulting him back. Don’t take it personally. Now if I am not explained myself throughly enough then you all can sit on it and rotate. 🙂 I love the pit. * * * Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/51 "2000-03-28T17:44:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Baseless to whom? You? How about some plain old thinking here Tom…What in the fuck do you suppose they were going to do with those missiles once they got them in Cuba? Polish them? Do you reckon that maybe having nuclear weapons 90 miles off shore from the most powerful nation in the world might be a step towards world domination? I suppose not in your evidently naïve existence. Can we take a poll of which countries have ever in the history of mankind launched a nuclear attack? Oh… just the States. Eat pig shit and contract a wasting disease from fecal choliform. Then release another stupendous eighties hit, a-ha. ---
**Author:** ![Flyhalf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ea5d25/32.png) [@Flyhalf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyhalf)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/52 "2000-03-28T17:56:00Z")
## Yep. We Americans are dumb. “Fuck us, I hate us.” - Lumpy When you know that your time is close at hand Maybe then you’ll begin to understand Life down here is just a strange illusion ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/53 "2000-03-29T06:14:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by KarmaComa: > \*\* Can we take a poll of which countries have ever in the history of mankind launched a nuclear attack? > > Oh… just the States. > > Eat pig shit and contract a wasting disease from fecal choliform. Then release another stupendous eighties hit, a-ha.\*\* Yeah and never mind that it saved thousands of lives and ended months more of a filthy, economy-depleting useless war that the Japanese started to begin with. Ignoramus And that stupid nick (Karma) is right out the 60’s and besides it intimates that you are in a fucking coma and can’t think straight. * * * Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/54 "2000-03-29T06:18:00Z")
aha, you’re too smart to be wasting your time with these fucking morons. Ignore them. Let them talk to each other. I can think of no better punishment. ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/55 "2000-03-29T06:20:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by WallyM7: > \*\*aha, you’re too smart to be wasting your time with these fucking morons. > > Ignore them. Let them talk to each other. I can think of no better punishment.\*\* ## Thanks Wally I agree. Thanks for waking me up on that one. Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/56 "2000-03-29T06:28:00Z")
And that stupid nick (Karma) is right out the 60’s and besides it intimates that you are in a fucking coma and can’t think straight. OK super-sleuth, I’ve got a name straight out of the sixties, born in the eighties. Are you IN your eighties? I like the fact that you’ve started to sign your posts ‘Ignoramus’. I suppose after the Japanese started WWII they deserved to have their cities painted with innocent victims. WallyM7, you are a font of bubbling rats’ livers, toads’ piss, high game-birds, rotting teeth, gangrene, skewered corpses, burning witchflesh, sewers, politicians’ consciences, skunk-holes, sepulchres, and all the pickle-vats of Hell! You too, aha. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/57 "2000-03-29T06:53:00Z")
Oh, oh. I think I’ve been flamed. Well, sort of. ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/58 "2000-03-29T06:56:00Z")
Scary ain’t it wally? * * * Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/59 "2000-03-28T19:02:00Z")
Just don’t forget that I’m the biggest flamer around… except Esprix. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664/60 "2000-03-28T19:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > WallyM7, you are a font of bubbling rats’ livers, toads’ piss, high game-birds, rotting teeth, gangrene, skewered corpses, burning witchflesh, sewers, politicians’ consciences, skunk-holes, sepulchres, and all the pickle-vats of Hell Come now. Standards. Standards. This lacks cadence, it doesn’t build. It is simply a grocery list of things most people wouldn’t want to stand near, but without an organizing principle that holds the reader in expectant tension to be released in the final climactic image. 4.2 Gangrene is nice, but why is a skewered corpse particularly nauseating (unless it is graphically prepared for barbecue)? An eviscerated corpse, _that_ can be nauseating. Why sepulchres? Most sepulchres are simply neat, stone receptacles for sealed coffins. Spooky in context, but hardly conducive to losing one’s lunch. Politicians’ consciences might have been a good idea, but the words are too long with too many sibilants and nasals: there’s no punch; it slows down the momentum. Come now. If we have to keep this silly thread alive, let us do it properly, venom in our step, the cadence of calumny our music, our banner wit, leading us on to Vitriol! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-americans/5664.md?page=4)