# Dumb Atheisti

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 20, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909 "2003-03-20T21:45:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/21 "2003-03-21T02:21:58Z")

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Help a dumb atheista out . . . What’s with the (i)'s?

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/22 "2003-03-21T03:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*I’ve never seen… Emma Caulfield’s pudenda, but I’m reasonable certain those things exist. \*\*

[Poison]  
And give me something to believe in…  
[/Poison]

😛

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**Author:** ![Black\_Train\_Song](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Black\_Train\_Song](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Train_Song)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/23 "2003-03-21T06:30:59Z")

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Let me try one:

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/24 "2003-03-21T07:05:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*Ummm. . . maybe you should read the [essay](http://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html) first. Bertrand Russell was a stone atheist and complete disbeliever in the supernatural, as am I. \*\*

Eh, [he waffled a bit](http://www.luminary.us/russell/atheist_agnostic.html), at least on the _stone_ atheist part.

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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/25 "2003-03-21T07:41:57Z")

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gobear wrote

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> Well, that is narrow, I admit. Some phenomena–subjective emotional experiences, for example–are not amenable to objective analysis. However, the existence of God is not in that category. One can dismiss God by logicalal argument. For example, how does one reconcile a loving God with the existence of parasites?

Sheesh, I don’t even believe in an omnibenevolent god and I can answer this one: god loves parasites too.

Which actually brings me to the most idiotic bit of tripe I’ve heard from some atheists: the harping on about one or more of omniscience, omnibenevolence, or omnipotence, and their expectation that their proofs involving those should be convincing to someone who doesn’t actually ascribe any of those traits to the divine.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/26 "2003-03-21T08:08:05Z")

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I’ve heard that atheisti really like pie.

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/27 "2003-03-21T08:08:32Z")

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Wait a second…if this _isn’t_ a parody thread then that means that :

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> “The Earth is millions of year old!!!” That’s so stupid it’s almost disengenuous (as in I suspect someone who would say that is intentionally lieing).

and…

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> All the Christians I know are Christians because it’s the RIGHT thing to do. And Baptist too. Better keep thee Catholic rif raf outta here.

…would be genuine statements of the OP. Since the first one implies a young-earther, a belief so irrational that nobody could possibly believe it who has an education over a 10th grade level, and the second one is anti-Catholic…I’m gonna assume this _is_ a parody thread. Otherwise this is ignorant and stupid. People are lying who claim the earth is millions of years old? Well I suppose since it’s _billions_ of years old not millions, you have a point 😉

Since a real genuine anti-Catholic, young-earther, fundie evangelical Protestant could _never_ get away with making a post like this and not being torn a new one within 20 posts, I’m forced to conclude this is a parody thread. So, you gotta link to the original?

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/28 "2003-03-21T08:09:16Z")

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"Certainly there are many phenomena that are not fully understood by science yet, but that does not mean that they don’t exist. “To the rational mind, nothing is inexplicable, only unexplained.”

who said that? “that does not mean they don’t exist”

Kinda like some other theories out there, well I believe it exists.  
I can testify based on my own opinion, that it is real.  
I can show what some might call proof, whereas others would disagree.  
No, I don’t have physical scientific evidence or technology availabe YET…but does that prove it is not possible.

hmmm…\<scratches head\>

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**Author:** ![jacksen9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jacksen9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacksen9)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/29 "2003-03-21T10:45:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by blowero \*  
> \*\*I’ve heard that atheisti really like pie. \*\*

And like to go car shopping with Christians.

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**Author:** ![Schwanzong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Schwanzong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schwanzong)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/30 "2003-03-21T10:57:09Z")

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**You can’t take it with you**

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/31 "2003-03-21T11:06:46Z")

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I heard tht when an angel gets it’s wings, an athiest spontenaously combusts.  
😕 😕 😕

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/32 "2003-03-21T12:30:47Z")

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> Bertrand also says, “Most people believe in God because they have been taught from early infancy to do it, and that is the main reason.” How stupid is THAT!!! That is SO wrong. All the Christians I know are Christians because it’s the RIGHT thing to do. And Baptist too. Better keep thee Catholic rif raf outta here.

You notice how people in Christian countries tend to be Christian? And people in Islamist countries tend to be Muslim? And people in Hindu countries tend to be Hindu? Coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/33 "2003-03-21T13:35:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rooves \*  
> \*\*Let me try one:
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> “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” \*\*

Can the elaborate why you think this is stupid?

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**Author:** ![green\_dragon\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/13edae/32.png) [@green\_dragon\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/green_dragon_1)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/34 "2003-03-21T13:53:36Z")

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Aw, damn. I got to the bottom of the thread and I’m STILL waiting to find out if inertia is one feather short of an angel’s wing or whether this is a parody thread…grrr I hate cliffhangers…

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**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/35 "2003-03-21T16:45:48Z")

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_\>Dumb Atheisti_

It must be a real pisser getting caught in a spelling mistake while in the midst of correcting someone elses “dumbness”

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/36 "2003-03-21T19:51:23Z")

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If I can be a bit self-aggrandizing in my choice, –

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=170874#post3160893](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=170874#post3160893)  
( **js\_africanus** replying to me with what I thought was a pretty stupid set of assertions.)

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/37 "2003-03-21T20:33:43Z")

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\<sarcasm\>

“Those stupid atheists! What’s this crazy delusion about teaching biology based on _facts?_ If everyone in my community says God created the world in seven days, then _that’s_ what our kids should be learning! None of this ‘evolution’ mumbo-jumbo, let’s put our tax dollars into teaching what _we_ want to teach!”

\</sarcasm\>

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**Author:** ![Deptford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Deptford](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deptford)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/38 "2003-03-22T13:52:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*  
> Actually, the existence of black holes was deduced 200 years ago by the English geologist John Michell, who theorized that a star could grow so massive that its light could not escape. Certainly there are many phenomena that are not fully understood by science yet, but that does not mean that they don’t exist. “To the rational mind, nothing is inexplicable, only unexplained.” --Doctor Who. \*\*

You sure? I thought it was the Marquis de Laplace who proposed the possibility of there existence.

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**Author:** ![Deptford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Deptford](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deptford)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/39 "2003-03-22T13:57:54Z")

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Just googled. Apparently the Marquis and John Michell both came up with the idea in 1783. Each independantly as far as we can tell.

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**Author:** ![Regina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Regina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regina)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumb-atheisti/162909/40 "2003-03-22T15:00:21Z")

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Thus explaining the existence of ghosti.

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