# Dumbassery in Pamplona

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828 "2009-07-13T04:18:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/21 "2009-07-13T14:46:23Z")

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How about being chased by bulls… down the slopes! Wouldn’t that be awesome?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/22 "2009-07-13T14:56:08Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> How about being chased by bulls… down the slopes! Wouldn’t that be awesome?

Are the bulls riding motorcycles?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/23 "2009-07-13T15:08:59Z")

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When someone gets hurt at the running of the bulls, I can’t help but be reminded of Norm MacDonald’s reaction to the death of the Crocodile Hunter, as expressed on _The Daily Show_– ‘You’ll never guess who died! The CROCODILE HUNTER!’

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/24 "2009-07-13T15:15:28Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Are the bulls riding motorcycles?

Snowmobiles. I mean, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/25 "2009-07-13T15:32:47Z")

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> [@Estilicon](#):
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> This. Once an spanish fanatic was mad at me: I cheered when the “Toro” got the Matador. It’s wrong to be a fan of the visiting team?

I always wondered whether, should the bull win, he gets to keep the matador’s ears and tail.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/26 "2009-07-13T15:42:15Z")

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[Digital camera for sale.](http://www.fwdemails.com/2009/04/26/digital-camera-for-sale/)

Totally made up, not real, still funny.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/27 "2009-07-13T16:32:05Z")

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How is this any more stupid than climbing Everest? 142 people have died doing _that_, and nobody nominates them for Darwin Awards.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/28 "2009-07-13T16:36:31Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> What’s the next step in Xtreme Adventurism? A rousing game of Provoke The Cobra?

Don’t say it unless you mean it.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/29 "2009-07-13T16:52:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> How is this any more stupid than climbing Everest? 142 people have died doing _that_, and nobody nominates them for Darwin Awards.

Except for the animal cruelty part, maybe not much. Although I would argue that running with the bulls is a completely made up “adventure”, because in reality the streets of Pamplona are not filled with running bulls.

But mostly it is the animal cruelty part.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/30 "2009-07-13T16:59:22Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Except for the animal cruelty part, maybe not much. Although I would argue that running with the bulls is a completely made up “adventure”, because in reality the streets of Pamplona are not filled with running bulls.

Climbing Everest is a completely made-up adventure, too. It’s not like you’re going up there to fetch something useful.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/31 "2009-07-13T17:16:48Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Dude, huge differences between “seeing the world as it really is”/“real adventure” and deliberately putting yourself in the path of a huge charging mammal with horns.
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> What’s the next step in Xtreme Adventurism? A rousing game of Provoke The Cobra?

Ah, the great Gaelic-Italian tradition of [Shirling.](http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=17419)

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/32 "2009-07-13T17:22:38Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> How is this any more stupid than climbing Everest? 142 people have died doing _that_, and nobody nominates them for Darwin Awards.

Yes they do.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/33 "2009-07-13T17:22:57Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> That’s the one-size-fits-all-bike-helmet-wearing-tricycle generation for you. Me I like it. It’s fun. Everybody is in it freely. Well except for the bulls. But once in a while the bulls gets a kill. That’s only fair and adds to the excitement. If you don’t like it, you are free to stay away or stay indoor.

Yes, it’s only fair.

That the bulls occasionally get a kill.

I’m sure the bulls’ union was really adamant that that be included during the negotiations. Every once in a while, we get a kill. While we’re thundering confusedly down city streets and being provoked from all angles by a bewildering throng of tiny pink animals, if every once in a while, when one of them throws himself in front of us, that we get to crush him. It would be unfair otherwise. To us. If we didn’t. But we do.

Fairness is important.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/34 "2009-07-13T17:40:07Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I met a guy once who had run with the bulls, he said it was a great adrenaline rush. He also told me that a majority of people never get any where near the bulls because they are too scared. The guy had met a local at a bar the previous night who took him out and showed him how to do it and he had a friend get a picture of him running with his hand on the back of a bull.
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> I still think that is once of the coolest pictures I have ever seen.

That guy was an asshole. You’re not supposed to touch the bulls unless you want to die or are trying to get him off someone else.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/35 "2009-07-13T17:46:12Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> That’s the one-size-fits-all-bike-helmet-wearing-tricycle generation for you.

Exactly. Just like I refrain from playing Russian Roulette because I’m coddled, overprotected, emasculated, adventure-phobic, and deathly frightened of taking the slightest risk—not because it’s a really fucking stupid thing to do.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/36 "2009-07-13T18:35:15Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Exactly. Just like I refrain from playing Russian Roulette because I’m coddled, overprotected, emasculated, adventure-phobic, and deathly frightened of taking the slightest risk—not because it’s a really fucking stupid thing to do.

It isn’t any more Russian Roulette than any other risky activity. And it’s not any more “fucking stupid” than jumping out of an airplane or strapping your feet to a giant rubber band and throwing yourself off a bridge.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/37 "2009-07-13T18:41:13Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> It isn’t any more Russian Roulette than any other risky activity.

In most risky activities the risks can be lessened by careful preparation and practice. How can one lessen the risk inherent in Russian Roulette?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/38 "2009-07-13T18:44:30Z")

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Duck.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/39 "2009-07-13T18:49:53Z")

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Meh, at least his dumbassery gets punished. Somehow the Karma of it all makes it alright for me.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbassery-in-pamplona/502828/40 "2009-07-13T18:58:52Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> In most risky activities the risks can be lessened by careful preparation and practice. How can one lessen the risk inherent in Russian Roulette?

I don’t accept the notion that running with the bulls is equivalent given the statistics of 15 deaths in 99 years of the event.

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