# Dumbest thing I've heard today (so far): Muslims ruining America!, says VA Rep.

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**Created:** [December 21, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041 "2006-12-21T08:26:31Z")
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### Author: ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/1 "2006-12-21T08:26:31Z")

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from [MSNBC](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16300665/)

[QUOTE=douchebag Virginia Congressman Virgil Goode]

A Virginia congressman has warned that “many more Muslims” will be elected demanding to use the Quran unless immigration is tightened. Republican Rep. Virgil Goode made the comment in a letter to constituents who had written in about Congressman-elect Keith Ellison’s decision to use the Quran at his ceremonial swearing-in.

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“The Muslim Representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district and if American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration, there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran,” he said. “I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America.”  
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In a less-noted move, Virgil Goode also recommended amending the poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty to:

_Give me your tired, your poor,  
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,  
unless you’re a dirty raghead.  
PRAISE JESUS!_

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/2 "2006-12-21T08:32:24Z")

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This ones _not_ from Texas. Please take note. Virginia. Not Texas.

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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
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OMG! I thought (for some reason) he was a rep in the state house. He is a freakin’ Congressman!

> **[Virgil Goode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Goode)**
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> Virgil Hamlin Goode Jr. (born October 17, 1946) is an American politician who served as a member of the United States House of Representatives from 5th congressional district of Virginia between 1997 and 2009. He was initially a Democrat, but became an independent in 2000 and switched to the Republican Party in 2002. He was narrowly defeated in 2008 by Democrat Tom Perriello.
> In 2012, he was the presidential nominee of the Constitution Party, receiving 122,388 votes or 0.09% of the total.
> Goo...

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### Author: ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/4 "2006-12-21T12:32:08Z")

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A simple solution. Eliminate references to religious artifacts when conducting the business of the state.

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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
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What references? In what?

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### Author: ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/6 "2006-12-21T13:49:34Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> A simple solution. Eliminate references to religious artifacts when conducting the business of the state.

[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
What references? In what?  
[/QUOTE]

The Bible every time any yammerhead is sworn in, I’d imagine.

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### Author: ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)
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I was hoping the “VA” in the title of this thread stood for Veteran’s Administration", but that was a hopeless wish.

I wish this chowderhead would remember that Richard Nixon, many disgraced Congresscritters and other elected officials who have served time for shenanigans while in office swore their oaths on Bibles. A fat lot of good that did. It’s the person swearing (or affirming) the oath of office, not the particular item that it is done on.

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### Author: ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)
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- “I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America.” \*

I think he meant to say “that I believe are necessary to preserve **my christian** values and beliefs **that I say are good for** the United States of America.”

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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/9 "2006-12-21T14:59:41Z")

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His values are so weak they cannot defend themselves. They need a wall. Protection.

Remember when Republicans were self-confident?

(In other news, the clown’s official web page deletes e-mails that do not include a postal address in his district.)

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### Author: ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)
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I thought about pitting this, but I’d already started a pit thread on Sen. Brownstain’s douchebaggery, and I was overcome by an overwhelming sense that we are represented totally by douchebags and goat fuckers, and this resulted in an overpowering desire to curl up and die rather than start pit threads.

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### Author: ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/11 "2006-12-21T15:11:49Z")

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I don’t know who Virgil Goode is and nor do I care. But whoever he is, he’s a bigoted, racist smear of shit. Seriously, enough with the anti-muslim and anti-arab hatred.

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### Author: ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
(In other news, the clown’s official web page deletes e-mails that do not include a postal address in his district.)  
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That’s not uncommon. Representatives don’t want to be swamped with opinions of people outside their district who can’t vote for them and they don’t have to keep happy.

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[QUOTE=Hamadryad]  
The Bible every time any yammerhead is sworn in, I’d imagine.  
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That would be it.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
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Hey, at least it gave me a topic for my Government classes to rant about. They agree…he’s a fuckwit.

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
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[QUOTE=silenus]  
Hey, at least it gave me a topic for my Government classes to rant about. They agree…he’s a fuckwit.  
[/QUOTE]

_No_, he’s an unprincipled cynic…the people who _believe this stuff_ and then _vote for him_ are the fuckwits.

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### Author: ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dumbest-thing-ive-heard-today-so-far-muslims-ruining-america-says-va-rep/385041/16 "2006-12-21T16:18:52Z")

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What, you thought that after fucking up the war and getting their asses kicked in the midterms that Republicans and conservatives would get all contemplative and apologetic? Not on your life!

The liberal media is to blame: because it was so negative, it FORCED Bush and conservatives to be reactively super-positive, tricking them into missing the real problems in Iraq (yes, Stanley Kurtz actually said this at National Review’s blog)

And Muslims? You’d better bet those filthy buggers are even more to blame now.

You think Goode’s statement was scummy, then how about this:

[http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200005](http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200005)

Should Barack Hussein Obama be president “when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam”? He might be Catholic (he SAYS) but he had a Muslim-leaning father and grew up near Muslims. And his middle name is HUSSIEN. hussien. hussien. and we’ll mention it at every chance we get!

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If you wanna see the whole text of this letter, [click here](http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002196.php). This guy is such a damned idiot, but I guarantee you he _is_ saying what his constituents want to hear.

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It’s interesting times we live in. Most of my life, I thought the naked bigotry demonstrated by several of our current elected officials would be relegated to a few KKK crackpots and history books. Well, there goes a little more of my hope for the future.

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Has anybody considered the possibility Congressman Goode is confused about the difference between Muslims and Mexicans?

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### Author: ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)
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[Marylander]What _is_ it with Virginia congresscritters spouting nonsense about immigration? First George “Macaca” Allen, now this…[/Marylander]

By the way, Keith Ellison isn’t an immigrant- he was born in Detroit and converted to Islam as an adult. How exactly is restricting immigration going to keep someone like him from being elected to Congress? :dubious:

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