# Dune (Film) Post-release thread (open spoilers from film) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 22, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991 "2021-10-22T09:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/381 "2021-11-13T14:18:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > > > Is there any justification in the book for why sand-eating worms need saber-sharp teeth? > > IIRC, the male worm eats the female as an essential part of their reproductive process. Huh, i know this is a hijack, but how does THAT work? There are lots of animals where the female eats the male, but the male eating the female sounds awkward for the developing eggs. Does the male incubate the eggs after fertilization? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/382 "2021-11-13T18:35:50Z")
Sand worms are a form of seahorse. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/383 "2021-11-13T22:37:30Z")
I did not know there was a TV version of the Lynch film. Go figure. I suppose this is one of these less is more kind of things. A history lesson is probably too much, but just a handful of lines that set the chess pieces on the board could work. It may also have the secondary benefit of showing the spellings of some of the made-up words that are used commonly like Mentat, Bene Gesserit and Landsraad. For someone like my wife who struggled to parse some of the mumbled and whispered dialogue this might have helped. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/384 "2021-11-14T00:53:09Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I did not know there was a TV version of the Lynch film. Go figure. The TV edit was made without Lynch’s blessing and is credited to Alan Smithee. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/385 "2021-11-14T01:09:07Z")
I love his work. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/386 "2021-11-15T06:56:51Z")
Like someone far upthread, the only Dune ‘text’ I’d consumed before this film was the 90s video game, so I only knew the basics (Spice, big worms, Baron Creosote). I had the advantage going in of comparing this film to the latest Star Wars trilogy, which I thought were ruined by their constant call-backs, in-jokes, nudges and winks. The Dune film succeeded well at conjuring things on a vast scale - the planets, mother ships, Spice-harvesters and worms. While it worked in carrying on the vast-versus-minuscule motif, I did think it weird that every room the actors appeared in seemed to be colossal, with little furniture or furnishings. It was sometimes laughable when the (excellent) soundtrack was blaring away, while key dialogue was muttered. But overall, a really good film - refreshingly dour, and successfully carving out its own style. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/387 "2021-11-15T07:45:28Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > While it worked in carrying on the vast-versus-minuscule motif, I did think it weird that every room the actors appeared in seemed to be colossal, with little furniture or furnishings. As seen on Twitter; “Alright, Duke Leto, how many chairs would you like in your palace library?” “Three should do.” “And for your son’s bedroom?” “I don’t think he needs any furniture.” ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/388 "2021-11-15T15:53:27Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > While it worked in carrying on the vast-versus-minuscule motif, I did think it weird that every room the actors appeared in seemed to be colossal, with little furniture or furnishings. Not mentioned in either the movies or the books, but this was a result of the destruction of the planet Ikea during the Butlerian Jihad. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/389 "2021-11-15T16:16:02Z")
The sleeper set has awaken… for only $499! (assembly required) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/390 "2021-11-15T17:11:40Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > Like someone far upthread, the only Dune ‘text’ I’d consumed before this film was the 90s video game, so I only knew the basics (Spice, big worms, Baron Creosote)… Anyone who can so adroitly combine _Monty Python_ and _Dune_ is worthy of elevation to God-Emperor. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/391 "2021-11-15T17:19:54Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > > [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > > > > > Is there any justification in the book for why sand-eating worms need saber-sharp teeth? > > > > IIRC, the male worm eats the female as an essential part of their reproductive process. > > Huh, i know this is a hijack, but how does THAT work? There are lots of animals where the female eats the male, but the male eating the female sounds awkward for the developing eggs. Does the male incubate the eggs after fertilization? The eggs are fertilized as they pass through the male’s digestive tract. They incubate within the sand. (Vaguely similar to how some plants have their seeds pass through birds’ digestive tracts.) Also note that a crysknife is not a worm’s tooth, but made from a worm’s tooth. The teeth are there primarily for tunneling through the sand. Worms of all sizes have teeth, just not the males. The teeth are not razor sharp, but are very strong, although they have cleavage points. Crysknives can be broken, too. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/392 "2021-11-16T10:57:45Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Crysknives can be broken, too. “May thy knife chip and shatter.” ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/393 "2021-11-23T15:04:34Z")
Was anyone else surprised when HBO yanked it without fanfare? I’d started watching it last weekend, and last night thought I was going insane. > **[’Dune’ Is No Longer On HBO Max, And People Are In Mourning](https://uproxx.com/movies/dune-has-left-hbo-max/)** > > Here’s hoping you watched "Dune" before it was removed from HBO Max. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/394 "2021-11-23T15:11:19Z")
The article makes it clear that the movie was removed from the streaming service after 31 days. I think that was a standard thing; new movies are available to stream for a set window and then pulled. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/395 "2021-11-23T15:29:38Z")
Ah yes, but not having read the article beforehand and not being aware of this standard, it was a surprise to me. Netflix, at least, generally gives you a little warning that a movie or show you’re watching is about to leave Netflix. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/396 "2021-11-23T20:23:50Z")
It is a special thing they originally set up at the height of the pandemic that a bunch of WB movies would be released in theaters and on HBO Max but would only be on HBO Max for a month. It was all laid out more than a year ago and was well publicized. Dune will come back when it comes on HBO “normally” the same way Wonder Woman 84 and all the other movies like this did. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/397 "2021-11-24T13:43:16Z")
It’ll be back in three or four months. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/398 "2021-11-24T14:22:45Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > Ah yes, but not having read the article beforehand and not being aware of this standard, it was a surprise to me. Netflix, at least, generally gives you a little warning that a movie or show you’re watching is about to leave Netflix. I happened to switch to HBO Max yesterday while looking for something short to watch and they were promoting King Richard, and in the plot description was a warning that it would only be available for streaming until, I think, December 19. So I assume there was a similar warning for Dune. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/399 "2021-11-24T16:34:08Z")
There was. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/400 "2021-11-25T13:45:00Z")
> [@eburacum45](#): > > Dune was the first major SF work to include ecology as a plot point, and I’d like to think there was some mechanism in Herbert’s imagination that could explain this energy flow. I talked to my daughter about this problem. She is a mathematical biologist, and her impression is that msot of the energy in Dune’s ecosystem comes from dead plant matter preserved from earlier ages, when Dune was a lush world full of plant-life. Basically the ecology is supported by fossil fuels most in the form of a peat-like kerogen mass. Photosynthesis on this world is minimal, and as the dead biomass reserves are used up, the planet will die. I believe that is consistent with various statements by Liet Kynes, and also seems to suggest a parallel between Arrakis and the sandy, oil-rich lands of Saudi Arabia, which were a direct inspiration for the novel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991.md?page=21)