# Dune (Film) Post-release thread (open spoilers from film) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 22, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991 "2021-10-22T09:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/401 "2021-11-25T14:08:03Z")
When it first came out, friends told me, “this will be on HBO max until xxx”. I don’t have HBO max, so I didn’t care. But based on that, I’m certain they announced when it would leave HBO max in the same announcement that said it would be there at all. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/402 "2021-11-30T22:30:33Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > …You know who I think would make a good Feyd-Rautha? Robert Pattinson. He was wonderfully unhinged in The King (also with Chalemet) as well as The Lighthouse… Ooo, yes! Also very good, I thought, in _Tenet_. > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > …I liked Stellan Skarsgård channeling Brando as Colonel Kurtz for his Baron. Hadn’t thought about that at the time, but yes, I can see that now. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > Loved it. Unlike a lot of the posters here I thought Ferguson was great as Jessica. > > I love Ferguson (personally, I think she is one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood today and a very good actress). I think she did a good job… Agreed. I didn’t think she was _too_ weepy or emotive, under the circumstances. She’s also very good in the two most recent _Mission: Impossible_ movies. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I thought this was interesting (17.5 minutes). A peek at what the director was thinking when making the Gom Jabbar scene: > > [https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0](https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0) Huh. Very cool - thanks for posting that! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/403 "2021-12-01T01:49:45Z")
Fortunately, someone was able to “translate” the throat-singer in the Salusa Secundus scene. 🙂 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4uRXoozXVr0/hqdefault.jpg "Dune - Sardaukar with subtitles") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uRXoozXVr0) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/404 "2021-12-06T19:05:00Z")
I like that Gurney Halleck twice quoted what sounded like scripture or commonly-accepted axioms - from the Orange Catholic Bible, perhaps? > [@carlb](#): > > …Jason Momoa was Jason Momoa, but I think that worked well for Duncan, given that we weren’t going to get deep into his character… Momoa looks a lot like a young-ish Stephen Seagal to me in some scenes. It was actually a little distracting. > [@Acsenray](#): > > Oh and the pronunciation of “Padishah Emperor” was annoying. It’s PAH-dee-SHAH — no reduced vowels — not p’DEEshuh Who knows how much the pronunciation of Earth words will change in 10k+ years? > [@Zakalwe](#): > > In the book, IIRC, a big deal is made of the spice harvester incident, with Liet-Kynes realizing that, as mad as the Duke is about the harvester, he’s more worried about _the men_ - to the point of risking both his and his son’s lives to save them. Something no Harkonnen would have even contemplated at all. Yes. She’s also impressed that Paul knows just how to put on and adjust his stillsuit, as if he had been born a Fremen. > [@JohnT](#): > > Lol, the whole ‘lasers and shields create atomic explosions’ rule is best not thought about too deeply. Think about the scene where the Sardaukar is using the laser to cut through the door… the laser just continues merrily in a straight line. But what if Paul had his shield on? What about accidents? I would assume accidents alone would cause 1 atomic explosion per city per planet per year. 😉 The bad guys also try to bring down Duncan’s fleeing 'thopter over Arrakeen with a laser. Cool scene, but _crazy_ reckless, going by the books. > [@Smapti](#): > > … > There’s a lot of subtle detail the movie doesn’t address, and which it probably would’ve been impossible to cover in a feature film format. I’ve been having a series of conversations with a coworker of mine who’s seen the movie and loves it but has never read the book, which have largely consisted of me explaining a bunch of the things from the book that the movie doesn’t cover, and it’s largely left me feeling like the narrator of this Youtube clip; > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atv8pf0jBNE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atv8pf0jBNE) Ha - great clip! Appropriately baffling. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/405 "2021-12-06T19:32:45Z")
I just realized that the stuff that makes Dune interesting is all in the exposition. It’s not what the characters do. The actual events of the plot are kind of standard sci-fi adventure. The real cool stuff is _why_ various people and factions do things. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/406 "2021-12-06T23:07:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Who knows how much the pronunciation of Earth words will change in 10k+ years? Well, I’m watching the movie now, and it annoys me now. And … that one word will have changed pronunciation in 10,000 years, but _aaaaaaall the other words_ (gestures broadly) are the same. ---
**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/407 "2021-12-06T23:14:05Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > I just realized that the stuff that makes Dune interesting is all in the exposition. It’s not what the characters do. The actual events of the plot are kind of standard sci-fi adventure. The real cool stuff is _why_ various people and factions do things. I feel like that’s true of a lot of SciFi/fantasy/dystopian/speculative fiction. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/408 "2021-12-08T10:32:47Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > And … that one word will have changed pronunciation in 10,000 years, but _aaaaaaall the other words_ (gestures broadly) are the same. Personally, it’s my assumption that none of the characters in the books are actually speaking English - they’re speaking some form of “Standard Galactic Arabo-Latin” comprising an amalgam of Earth languages that’ve been mashed together and amalgamated and evolved over the course of 20,000 years, which has been translated to English for our benefit, and the non-English words we’re hearing are bits of non-standard dialect and/or concepts that can’t be translated to a single English word. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/409 "2021-12-08T12:22:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Personally, it’s my assumption that none of the characters in the books are actually speaking English You don’t need to assume. Cononically, mostly they’re speaking _[Galach](https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Galach)_, some Fremen makes an appearance, with some other specialized languages mentioned but not actually quoted. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/410 "2021-12-08T12:25:46Z")
_… since we’re all here…_ I read the first, maybe the 2nd, of the ‘Brian Herbert’ _Dune_ books and found them to be execrable. Are any of them worth reading? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/411 "2021-12-08T13:29:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Are any of them worth reading? No. Although I do like the idea of Duncan Idaho becoming the true Kwizatz Haderach by dint of having lived and died a thousand times. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/412 "2021-12-08T13:50:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I read the first, maybe the 2nd, of the ‘Brian Herbert’ _Dune_ books and found them to be execrable. Are any of them worth reading? Nope, not even the slightest. As I said in a different thread, imagine that there was a fine dining restaurant you loved, but you moved away and haven’t been there for many years. You return, to find it’s still open - same name, same decor. But when you go in, the menu & food is actually from Applebees. That’s what the Brian Herbert books are like. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/413 "2021-12-08T13:51:21Z")
Not even the Butlerian Jihad one? Shame, that’s the title that always makes be think… ‘but maybe _this_ one won’t suck’. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/414 "2021-12-08T13:56:14Z")
I read the 3 immediate prequels (House Atreides, House Harkonnen, House Corinno), Butlerian Jihad, and got about 1/3 of the way through Machine Crusade before I gave up in utter disgust. No, there’s no reason at all to read them. Stylistically, compared to the originals they feel like they’re written for 12 year olds, the plots make no sense, lots of pointless torture porn, etc. ETA: I see you said you read the first 1 or 2 - they don’t get any better AFAICT. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/415 "2021-12-08T14:48:46Z")
I may be run off this board on a rail for saying this, but I loved the Brian Herbert books. He cut through a lot of the endless philosophizing and got to the action. Plus he gave the full story of Norma Cenva whi is one of my favorite characters of all time. I await the pitchfork-wieldung crowd. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/416 "2021-12-08T14:58:00Z")
Excuse us. We are the pitchfork-_weirding_ crowd, tyvm. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/417 "2021-12-08T14:58:13Z")
You like what you like, but “He cut through a lot of the endless philosophizing and got to the action.” sounds like you missed a lot of the point of the FH novels. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/418 "2021-12-08T15:49:08Z")
Yo got the prana-bindu farm implements, I see. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/419 "2021-12-08T22:12:09Z")
I’m only here for the sietch orgy. ---
**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/420 "2021-12-09T10:33:42Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > House Atreides, House Harkonnen, House Corinno I got through these out of some sort of displaced sense of duty (got them from a library) and because they were EXTREMELY quick reads. IIRC, they consists of very short chapters, 4-5 pages each. There is a lot of whitespace between each chapter. There is only one vaguely significant event in each chapter. So you can scan past descriptions of places, and boring internal monologue, until you hit the two or three important paragraphs, then skip the rest of the chapter. Still not worth the read. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991.md?page=22)