# Dune (Film) Post-release thread (open spoilers from film)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [October 22, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991 "2021-10-22T09:11:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/461 "2022-05-12T18:21:27Z")

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Well, this is unexpected:

> **[Christopher Walken Joins ‘Dune Part Two’ as Emperor Shaddam IV](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/christopher-walken-dune-part-2-emperor-shaddam-iv-1235265416/)**
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> The House Corrino has its ruler. Christopher Walken will join Timothée Chalamet and Zendaya in director Denis Villeneuve’s “Dune Part Two,” as Shaddam IV, the Padishah Emperor of …

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/462 "2022-05-12T18:24:26Z")

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Well, Dune DID need more cowbell.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/463 "2022-05-12T19:10:38Z")

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In all seriousness, I think he could really pull it off. He’s not who I would have picked. But, he can certainly act.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/464 "2022-05-12T19:12:38Z")

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I wasn’t saying it was a bad choice - just an unexpected one. He can definitely act, and I’m rather curious how it all comes together.

It’s not like Shaddam IV should have a lot of screen time anyway (unless the movie goes in a totally unexpected direction).

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/465 "2022-05-12T19:15:02Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Well, Dune DID need more cowbell.

The cowbell must flow…

Brian

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/466 "2022-05-12T19:15:52Z")

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Let’s just hope he doesn’t feel the need to smuggle any spice off Arrakis.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/467 "2022-05-12T19:15:53Z")

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There’s a Walken without rythm joke in there somewhere

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/468 "2022-05-12T19:19:56Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Should they have flown them with reins?

Nah, that’d be dumb

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> Or by interpretive dance moves?

YESSSSS

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/469 "2022-05-12T19:24:59Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> There’s a Walken without rythm joke in there somewhere

Like this?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wCDIYvFmgW8/maxresdefault.jpg "Fatboy Slim ft. Bootsy Collins - Weapon Of Choice [Official 4k Video]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8)

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/470 "2022-05-12T19:27:46Z")

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Nah. Walken was a dance major. IMO he got rythm.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/471 "2022-05-12T19:27:56Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > [@MrDibble](#):
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> > by interpretive dance moves?
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> YESSSSS

Done on _Hyperdrive_, the excellent Nick Frost show.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/472 "2022-05-12T19:28:25Z")

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Check out the lyrics, though

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/473 "2022-05-12T19:44:43Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> IMO he got rythm.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Like this?

So, he’s already got rhythm. He’s got music

Can he ask for anything more?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/474 "2022-05-12T19:53:48Z")

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I dunno. Um, to rule all of Humanity, maybe…?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/475 "2022-05-12T19:56:59Z")

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I can’t watch the video right now as I’ve been expecting an important work call for the past hour or so. I’ve also needed to use the restroom for the past hour or so. I look forward to watching the video and visiting the head after work.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/476 "2022-05-12T20:04:23Z")

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Don’t know anything about the younger two, but I completely trust the director’s judgment.

> **[Dune Part 2 Adds Florence Pugh As Princess Irulan, Somehow Making That...](https://www.slashfilm.com/792420/dune-part-2-adds-florence-pugh-as-princess-irulan-somehow-making-that-ensemble-better/)**
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> If this goes through, it could elevate an already outstanding cast to the next level.

> **[‘Elvis’ Star Austin Butler in Talks to Join ‘Dune: Part 2’ as Feyd-Rautha](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/austin-butler-dune-part-2-feyd-rautha-1235201239/)**
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> Austin Butler is in talks to join the cast of Denis Villeneuve’s “Dune: Part 2” as the villainous Feyd-Rautha, the sadistic nephew of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (Stellan Skarsgård) …

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/477 "2022-05-12T20:10:01Z")

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Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your dad’s. We were in that Harkonnen pit of hell together over five years. Hopefully, you’ll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your Dad were, for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it had been me who had not made it, Duke Leto would be talking right now to my son Jim. But the way it turned out is I’m talking to you, Paul. I got something for you

This watch.

… I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the Battle of Corrino. It was bought in a little general store in, I don’t know, somewhere far from Secundus. Made by the first company to ever make wrist watches. Up till then people just carried pocket watches.

It was bought by private Saudarkar Ernie Coolidge on the day he set sail for Poritrin. It was your great-grandfather’s watch and he wore it every day he was in that war. When he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off, put it an old coffee can, and in that can it stayed until your granddad Dane Coolidge was called upon by my father to go and fight the Landsraad once again. This time they called it the Great Spice War.

Your great-grandfather gave this watch to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane’s luck wasn’t as good as his old man’s. Dane was a Marine and he was killed, along with the other Marines at the battle of Keynes Bay. Your granddad was facing death, he knew it. None of those boys had any illusions about ever leaving that island alive. So three days before they took the island, your granddad asked a gunner on an Saudakar transport name of Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he’d never seen in the flesh, his gold watch. Three days later, your granddad was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother on Caladan, delivering to your infant father, his dad’s gold watch.

This watch.

This watch was on your daddy’s wrist when he was shot down over Geidi Prime. He was captured, put in a Harkonnen prison camp. He knew if the flameboys ever saw the watch it’d be confiscated, taken away. The way your dad looked at it, that watch was your birthright. He’d be damned if any rabbins were gonna put their greasy, blue-tinged hands on his boy’s birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass.

Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch.

I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family.

And now, little man, I give the watch to you.

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Just sayin’… ya may have to rewrite a few details, but that for the script doctors.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/478 "2022-05-12T20:42:39Z")

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Chris Walken is great and when he has the right part, he is incredible. His performance in Seven Psychopaths is amazing.

My favorite scene. Well worth it if you haven’t seen this movie(or if you have).

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9yHYAG01aaY/maxresdefault.jpg "Seven Psychopaths, Put your hands up scene with Christopher Walken 2012") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHYAG01aaY)

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/479 "2022-05-13T13:47:25Z")

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Anybody else picturing Shaddam IV looking like Walken’s character in Balls of Fury?

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-film-post-release-thread-open-spoilers-from-film/952991/480 "2022-05-14T11:08:34Z")

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I’m picturing the Emperor addressing the Baron like Don Vincenzo in True Romance.

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