# Dune Part 2 Question (Spoilers…I guess)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** movies
**Created:** [March 2, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360 "2024-03-02T15:28:24Z")
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/1 "2024-03-02T15:28:24Z")
Does everything in Part 2 take place in less than 9 months?
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### Author:  [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/2 "2024-03-02T15:38:27Z")
Well, no, but on the other hand they took liberties with the story, so maybe the timeline was deliberately hazy?
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/3 "2024-03-02T15:40:46Z")
I don’t think anybody is hazy on the length of human gestation. I’m pretty sure that fetus is special in some way, but does that also include the amount of time it spends in the womb?
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### Author:  [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/4 "2024-03-02T15:44:11Z")
I do not recall that they mentioned it, one way or the other. In fact, other than one person saying it was an “abomination”, was there any on-screen talk about how weird the fetus was?
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### Author:  [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/5 "2024-03-02T15:46:13Z")
Well, Alia is not born during the movie, so yes, it took place in less than gestation time.
There were multiple times Jessica mentioned Alia speaking to her from the womb.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/6 "2024-03-02T16:55:18Z")
How long is it in the book. What age is Alia when she kills Harkkonen? I am aware they apparently don’t have her kill him in this movie, but how old was she in the book?
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### Author:  [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/7 "2024-03-02T17:05:57Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> but how old was she in the book?
Four when she kills the Baron.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/8 "2024-03-02T18:04:33Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Four when she kills the Baron.
This seems like the right amount of time for Paul to return from the desert.
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### Author:  [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/9 "2024-03-02T18:30:47Z")
well in the Lynch version, they showed Paul leading a raid and said they’d been fighting the Harkonnen for 2 years …
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### Author:  [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/10 "2024-03-02T18:33:51Z")
the reason she’s so weird is pauls mom was pregnant when she drank the spice potion in the Fremen initiation and since pauls mom had witch powers it amplified them
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/11 "2024-03-02T18:36:59Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > Four when she kills the Baron.
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> This seems like the right amount of time for Paul to return from the desert.
Yeah. And that’s the impression you would get from watching the film, except for the fact that Lady Jessica is pregnant through the entirety of the movie.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/12 "2024-03-02T19:44:46Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Yeah. And that’s the impression you would get from watching the film, except for the fact that Lady Jessica is pregnant through the entirety of the movie.
I wonder what possessed them to eliminate child-Alia.
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### Author:  [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/13 "2024-03-02T20:10:41Z")
Yes, but in the book people gossip about how weird she is. With the film having her not born yet, there is not much to notice. They would presumably notice if the pregnancy lasted 4 years, though.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/14 "2024-03-02T20:24:38Z")
I forget how they talk about her in the book, but it is insane to picture a baby that talks and is fully intelligent, but the TV adaptation just didn’t show that and we see her as a little girl. It’s not easy to express that the girl is hyper-intelligent, but the brief scenes in the TV version worked adequately.
Then when the made Children of Dune, they made the gap between books longer. Alia and Leto II are about 20-22 years old or so and it makes the visual experience better than if they were kids.
Aging up? I get it.
Eliminating her from being born in the first book? Weird? Making Paul kill the bad guy…I wouldn’t have. I get it, but I would not have.
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### Author:  [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/15 "2024-03-02T23:10:43Z")
A sandworm question: what do those things eat? Whatever it is, a worm would have to eat a lot to power the kind of muscles it would take to burrow through sand at any kind of speed.
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/16 "2024-03-02T23:35:15Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> A sandworm question: what do those things eat?
Sand plankton - which I think are also an earlier phase of the sandworm life cycle.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/17 "2024-03-03T00:05:59Z")
Here is the spice cycle. I never understood where exactly the stuff came from.
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### Author:  [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/18 "2024-03-03T00:26:23Z")
Clearly there’s something missing from our understanding of the sandworm life cycle, since there’s no obvious place for energy to enter the described system. A species can’t just feed on itself. Maybe sand plankton have a photosynthetic symbiont and spend some time on the surface where they can get sunlight.
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### Author:  [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/19 "2024-03-03T06:21:17Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> How long is it in the book.
Long enough that Paul and Chani have a son, who’s killed by a raid on the sietch.
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### Author:  [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-part-2-question-spoilers-i-guess/998360/20 "2024-03-03T06:26:29Z")
> [@markn\_1](#):
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> A species can’t just feed on itself. Maybe sand plankton have a photosynthetic symbiont and spend some time on the surface where they can get sunlight.
A species could feed on itself, given an external energy source like photosynthesis as you mention. But I don’t think sand plankton is a single species, just as the plankton in Earth’s oceans is not a single species.
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